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It does not therefore follow that this rule is the key to making that happen.
Which rule? Owning the means of production (via employee stock ownership programs)? That's not a part of Bernie's campaign at all.
Looks like this would tax options at vest rather than exercise, essentially ending employee equity comp in startups. Interesting how he wants the workers to own the means of production but also is trying his damndest to disincentivize it.
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That startchurch looks like they do do it! thanks for that. I have been kicking the idea around of starting a few 'churches' just have an open 'third place' - I don't mind whatever religions stuff people choose to follow - I'd perhaps want to open a 'coag - church of any gods' and let people choose their own flavors. To me a 'church space' should/could be all inclusive - even athiest / satanic whatever - life's a jou…
I was part of such a church. It’s not active anymore. http://www.churchofvirus.org/ It was good. Then it was bad. It got worse. Then it died a sad death. I am pretty sure some of it’s members are probably right here on HN. Different time and another lifetime for me.
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I was part of such a church. It’s not active anymore. http://www.churchofvirus.org/ It was good. Then it was bad. It got worse. Then it died a sad death. I am pretty sure some of it’s members are probably right here on HN. Different time and another lifetime for me.
I'd love to hear a synopsis of that situation! I appreciate this bit as well. Makes me think something like this could quickly outgrow itself, and rather than trying to keep so many voices under one growing roof, perhaps it may be best to split in half and split again to keep things manageable and cordial and not have things get worse than bad. But still do the things it was set out to do - provide an open third plac…
But I will say this...the biggest cleft occurred after 9/11. It was a very bad time for the group to be cohesive. Looking back, it’s rather remarkable. I actually want to write about it some day because it was a pressurized emotional highly volatile environment where seemingly like minded people couldn’t stand each other’s POV anymore.
The group was around for a decade plus after that..but weaker. The ‘virus’ came from how thoughts are like virii and can infect people. And every member of the congregation can be a vector for rational thought. We’d spend hours discussing (remember BBS and Dalnet/IRC?) how religion was a virus and only rational atheistic thought could vaccinate people against the virus of god. Darwin was our prophet. Evolution explained life. We celebrated his birthday. Man..those were some good times.
Of course, even then no one got along..but we were all still arguing with ‘one of us’. But 911 changed everything.
That’s when it dawned upon many of us..the most dangerous virus is not religion..but politics. What bound us was not as strong as what divides us.
It was just sad after that. Slow agonizing ugly death of something that could have been beautiful.
I was very young then..in the two plus decades since, I have changed too. I stopped calling myself atheist and became agnostic for a while. Then I called myself ignostic and until recently didn’t care. As I get older, I feel I am ready to explore and am willing to test if faith is more nuanced than ‘organised religion’.
I don’t know. I guess we are always looking for answers. And when we are not, we invent questions to look for answers.
To your point, I disagree..congregations need to be large. We were trying to replicate how a virus works by spreading rational thoughts memes and the more people we infected with our thought memes, the more successful we were going to be in promoting the virian ideal and virtue of pure rational thought.