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Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

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Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

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Nothing but a sensationalist article based on bad science. If I may paraphrase the findings in simple terms: out of a narrow sample of 200 college-aged males, some guys were rated as slightly more obnoxious than average... those same guys said that they would like to have more hookups... and finally those same guys said that they do in fact have hookups.

Could it simply be that obnoxious guys like to brag about their supposed sexual conquests?

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

#34
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You know that part of your brain that acts as your "tact" filter? Yeah, just stop using that.

I disagree (but not enough to vote you down). I think you're on the right track, but it's not the tact filter that you should ignore. It's the "I can't possibly talk to that girl because she'll reject me," filter that you need to ignore.

I'll agree the fear of rejection is bad, but if one focuses on not being shy, one will find out why one was shy in the first place. One needs to know protocol first.

(Ackward + shy) - shy = Dumbass.

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

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You just need to get rejected a bunch of times because you're a nice guy, resulting in plummeting self-esteem, which naturally leads to multiple substance abuse problems and a penchant for bar fights. Then you'll have to resort to petty crime to support your habits, which leads to you getting caught, eventually enough times to go to prison - and, bingo, when you get out you can get the women who rejected you before :…

lol. Taking your joke literally, I think one would simply fuck his life up in the process, without the upside of getting women at the end. From what I've seen, guys with high time preference (short-term oriented) win out at the beginning, and guys with low time preference (long-term oriented) win out in the end. Pretty tautological stuff. Guys who spend high school working out, worrying about clothes and social stand…

Reminds me of Benjamin Graham (the "Dean of Wall Street" and Warren Buffett's mentor), who basically ignored girls altogether until he was well into his 20s, and then became one of Wall Street's most notable womanizers in his 50s and 60s. It probably helped that by then he was filthy rich and quite famous in his field.

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree (but not enough to vote you down). I think you're on the right track, but it's not the tact filter that you should ignore. It's the "I can't possibly talk to that girl because she'll reject me," filter that you need to ignore.

I'll agree the fear of rejection is bad, but if one focuses on not being shy, one will find out why one was shy in the first place. One needs to know protocol first. (Ackward + shy) - shy = Dumbass.

I'll buy that, but ignoring tact will certainly not help with awkwardness.

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

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lol. Taking your joke literally, I think one would simply fuck his life up in the process, without the upside of getting women at the end. From what I've seen, guys with high time preference (short-term oriented) win out at the beginning, and guys with low time preference (long-term oriented) win out in the end. Pretty tautological stuff. Guys who spend high school working out, worrying about clothes and social stand…

Reminds me of Benjamin Graham (the "Dean of Wall Street" and Warren Buffett's mentor), who basically ignored girls altogether until he was well into his 20s, and then became one of Wall Street's most notable womanizers in his 50s and 60s. It probably helped that by then he was filthy rich and quite famous in his field.

I suppose Scarface popularized this as well.

Tony Montana: In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll agree the fear of rejection is bad, but if one focuses on not being shy, one will find out why one was shy in the first place. One needs to know protocol first. (Ackward + shy) - shy = Dumbass.

I'll buy that, but ignoring tact will certainly not help with awkwardness.

Heh, I didn't think my comment was going to generate this much discussion. Anyways, my point was that shy people have this weird thing where they tend to only say really nice, sugary things. It comes off a little odd (or so I've heard). So a good place to start is by biting your tongue less. Or something like that.

Re: Study proves bad guys really do get the most girls

#39
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Bad science... The article seems to suggest that this is 'genetic'. That there must be coded traits that somehow have to be favored or at least persist. I have been the nice guy and the bad guy many times. A lot of it has to do with ones mood and phase of life. Pretty weak to suggest that this is genetic. I don't buy it.

I know what you mean about how genetics is often thrown up as the answer without much discussion on the complexities of human development. The discussion on intelligence often suffers from this. There's a level where we are talking purely about the myelin sheath and conductance latencies among other speed factors in the brain (for example my brother-in-law is obsessed with learning about history, but he is "slow" des…

Yes I think you make some very good points.
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