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Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by s_dev »

ptah wrote: post #5
s_dev wrote: post #3

I would imagine N.Irish users might end up being covered by GDPR -- British law also N.Irish people to declare themselves Irish under the GFA. N.Ireland could well end up with a special status post-Brexit where it's both in and out of the EU and in and out of the UK. Given European data protection is much stronger than either British or American DP it would make sense to group N.Irish people this way rather than tryi…

i think the stronger data protection would prevail for NI

I agree, like the California effect in the US. California is both the strictest and biggest car market and all the car manufactuers use California as the standard because it covers everyone else.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by Symbiote »

throwaway237654 wrote: post #28
pmlnr wrote: post #11

I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.

The UK is planning to leave the EU, so Google is planning to treat UK accounts as not part of the EU. I don't see what is difficult to understand about this.

The word "now".

The UK is following EU rules and regulations at least until the end of the year. After that point, it can pick and choose, based on negotiations for trade agreements or whatever other reason pleases it.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by luckydata »

playpause wrote: post #25
zweep wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can tell you that two FAANGs implement GDPR compliance for everyone because they didn’t want to risk getting a user’s EU status wrong.

Which two, and do you have a source?

Linkedin for sure, I used to work there so I can vouch for it.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by rconti »

ckastner wrote: post #20

The optics of this might look bad, but I cannot really fault Google for this move (and I frequently fault Google). They're facing a dilemma of regulatory uncertainty, and this move resolves this dilemma for them (at least, they seem to believe that). Anyone who has ever dealt with powerful regulatory agencies will probably agree that this resolution is the right move for the company, a move important enough that eati…

Pro-Brexiteers have often cited stronger bilateral ties, such as those with the US, as an advantage of Brexit. And of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be ever more reliant on the willingness of countries such as the US to cut deals with them. As an independent negotiator in these new deals, Britain will have less power to push back over silly things like data privacy; and as a member of Five Eyes anyway, they're all too happy to have the US do their spying on their behalf, just like the US likes Britain spying on US citizens to the US Government's benefit.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by _-___________-_ »

s_dev wrote: post #29
_-___________-_ wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide a source? All information I'm able to find says that it applies to EU & EEA residents, with no mention of citizenship being relevant. Edited to add: https://edpb.europa.eu/sites/edpb/files/files/file1/edpb_gui... (it's not even residency that is key - just being present in the EU+EEA)

Here is the official source -- you aren't exactly providing many sources yourself beyond repeating what you've "seen": https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

Uh... did you read the page you linked to? The word "citizen" does not appear anywhere on it, and it finishes with this pretty clear line:

> Provided your company doesn't specifically target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR.

(note in the EU - no mention of citizenship)

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by dboreham »

nightcracker wrote: post #17
rwmj wrote: post #7

It is real. I just got an email about this from Google about my gmail account: - Your service provider and data controller is now Google LLC: Because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our Terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. Google LLC will also become the data controller responsible for your information and complying with appli…

> These changes to our Terms and privacy policy don’t affect your privacy settings or the way that we treat your information. This is such a blatant lie what the hell. The only reason for this move is specifically to treat your information in ways that are not legal now.

Not necessarily. They might treat information the same way but generate different paperwork or have different levels of risk from frivolous lawsuits.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by addedlovely »

pmlnr wrote: post #11

I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.

Not sure why you are being down voted for this - we ratified GDPR under UK law, the UK Data Protection act of 2018 - until that law is repealed GPDR still applies under my understanding.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Post by vonmoltke »

s_dev wrote: post #29
_-___________-_ wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide a source? All information I'm able to find says that it applies to EU & EEA residents, with no mention of citizenship being relevant. Edited to add: https://edpb.europa.eu/sites/edpb/files/files/file1/edpb_gui... (it's not even residency that is key - just being present in the EU+EEA)

Here is the official source -- you aren't exactly providing many sources yourself beyond repeating what you've "seen": https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

That page has no reference to citizenship, and multiple to location. It contradicts what you claim it supports.
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