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An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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I (skim) read quite a lot of the article. I had a laugh (obvs). I then skim read the comments here. Oh fuck, I am really feeling out of place. I thought HN is where we talk bollocks about important stuff, or important things about bollocks or occasionally we debate important things about important things.

I'm pretty sure I did not sign up to talk bollocks about bollocks (unless orchids are involved.) This is bollocks. How do I cancel my subscription?

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pass orders down through the ranks to report all sightings, however odd they may seem? "Hey, we think the Chinese or Russians may have something new. It's imperative that all unidentifiable flying craft are reported." My personal theory is that the US knows exactly what these objects are because they built them. I don't believe the US military would've ever commented if they weren'…

You assume that if these are not ours, then broadcasting them shows a weakness. That seems like a big assumption. There are a variety of scenarios where the military may not see these as a threat, yet didn’t create them.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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I personally have no reason to negate the existence of aliens or UFOs. I've read a lot of testimonies about encounters and everything, and they mostly add up with one another. The problem is that this theme is such that there's lots of passionate people out there, and as such, there's lots of fabricated stuff too. One must be diligent when researching about this stuff, but the evidence is really strong;

> One must be diligent when researching about this stuff, but the evidence is really strong Where skeptics deviate from this reasoning is that, while there is hard evidence (i.e. the incidence of radiation burns, radar artifacts, etc) of something happening, the most likely explanation is terrestrial rather than interstellar.

Yes, but there's pretty strong evidence that something is going on that doesn't fit most rational people's model of reality. What that something is could range from extraterrestrial visitors to highly classified government programs that are protected by massive disinformation campaigns to gross government and military incompetence.

I think it's important to find out what is really going on because all of those explanations have major implications for the American people at least and possibly for the entire world.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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post #31

I (skim) read quite a lot of the article. I had a laugh (obvs). I then skim read the comments here. Oh fuck, I am really feeling out of place. I thought HN is where we talk bollocks about important stuff, or important things about bollocks or occasionally we debate important things about important things. I'm pretty sure I did not sign up to talk bollocks about bollocks (unless orchids are involved.) This is bollocks…

Think I hit a nerve.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that 13 years passed between the Nimitz incident and it's public disclosure makes it highly unlikely that it was an intentional disinformation campaign.

If you're saying it wasn't staged, I'd agree that that's obviously true.

Yes, that's what I meant.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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post #6

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pass orders down through the ranks to report all sightings, however odd they may seem? "Hey, we think the Chinese or Russians may have something new. It's imperative that all unidentifiable flying craft are reported." My personal theory is that the US knows exactly what these objects are because they built them. I don't believe the US military would've ever commented if they weren'…

US is so very much into "sending a message" thing. Anything of importance ? "This is a message to ". My God, there are hundred ways to deliver a message without resorting to teh dramah

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

>Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. The issue I have with this line of reasoning is that if the US military actually possesses technology that's vastly ahead of anything official, then that implies that about 99.9% of the US military bu…

While I don't believe the 'it's all cointel' theory myself, it does also seem possible the USAF could have highly advanced prototypes that aren't ready for mass production yet.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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What's the deal with Skinwalker ranch? Why are they interested in it? Everything is so vague and x-filesy when people mention the ranch. Very woo woo without any actual details about what people have encountered there. What is the specific link between the ranch and UFOs?

To my knowledge this is some sort of urban legend thing. I looked into this world about a year ago and it seems there are a number of weird things that have basically nothing backing them up that won't die. There is endless talk among UFO enthusiasts about this ranch, this bob lazar guy, etc. These are things that really have no leg to stand on, yet get the same type of traction in UFO circles as well documented sightings like the Nimitz incident, Minot AFB, etc. I was really blown away by the real stuff, I don't get how people are seriously skeptics about these cases, but there seems to be some inability with this audience in differentiating between those cases and whatever they heard on reddit about skinwalker ranch.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It was KG who first pitched Robert Bigelow on building a pseudoscientific device to communicate with Bigelow’s dead son. Who is KG ? - Kit Green ? Do you have a source for this statement ?

Yes Kit. I don’t have a source to share. It occurred at Col. John Alexander’s home though, so one could potentially ask him.

Then do you know why he did that ? I don't know much about Kit Green but the image he appears to be trying to project is that of a serious, though open-minded, researcher. Trying to sell someone a device to communicate with the dead doesn't seem to fit with that.

Re: An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program

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I (skim) read quite a lot of the article. I had a laugh (obvs). I then skim read the comments here. Oh fuck, I am really feeling out of place. I thought HN is where we talk bollocks about important stuff, or important things about bollocks or occasionally we debate important things about important things. I'm pretty sure I did not sign up to talk bollocks about bollocks (unless orchids are involved.) This is bollocks…

Yeah most of this thread reads like what I imagine a conspiracy theory forum would read like. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but nothing 'alien-y' can't be explained by one of: inexplicable/ as-of-yet unrecognised phenomena - geographic/ atmospheric, military research programs, and good old fashioned fakery.
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