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Re: Nissan Leaf

#32
post #6

Well it appears that at least the linked site does need flash. If you click on features and specifications the embedded video is flash (firefox 3.6) So not quite true.

I assumed it was a element that Firefox wouldn't render because it used H.264 video, but no... it's an ordinary Flash video. How odd.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#33

I don't understand how we've gone from "Flash is crap for entire websites" (edit: which is almost always true) to "Flash is the devil in every situation". It has its place, Javascript will never and shouldn't try and "kill" Flash, they're different.

Well, to me it's good news, the web will be a lot snappier when it's fully integrated. No more clunky plugins. No matter what Adobe says, the Flash plugin still manages to crash a lot here, increases memory usage, and loads the CPU like crazy.

There are certainly a few corner cases left in which flash remains a better fit, but it's losing territory, fast. Good work Nissan.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#34
post #3

There is a desc tag: Created with Raphaël http://raphaeljs.com/reference.html Awesome stuff.

What's this then? http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/js/js.swf__v2.0.2...

Most probably they will have a Flash fallback. Didn't try the page in IE6 though..

Re: Nissan Leaf

#36
post #3

There is a desc tag: Created with Raphaël http://raphaeljs.com/reference.html Awesome stuff.

What's this then? http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/js/js.swf__v2.0.2...

It's their original flash swf interface, emulated in javascript/canvas using the Raphael library

Re: Nissan Leaf

#37

I don't understand how we've gone from "Flash is crap for entire websites" (edit: which is almost always true) to "Flash is the devil in every situation". It has its place, Javascript will never and shouldn't try and "kill" Flash, they're different.

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Re: Nissan Leaf

#38
it probably took the team 10x the time to do that this way instead of flash.

it will not work on 100% of the devices. but at least they got some clicks from us that they wouldn't otherway.

Continuing with this rationale: if done in flash, it would have take the team 10x the time to that instead of plain html. or 200x the time if done in a simpler html format, like a wikipedia article.

it would work on 100% of the devices... you would be able to use back/forward buttons, you would be able to translate on google translator and still see the site... wouldn't use all the cpu... it would load instantly for the user (well, it would be loading the rest bellow the fold while the user was reading/looking at the top part)... it would hopefully play well with screenreaders... i would still be able to use the left menu even after increasing font size... but you wouldn't have buttons that jump around.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#39
post #38

it probably took the team 10x the time to do that this way instead of flash. it will not work on 100% of the devices. but at least they got some clicks from us that they wouldn't otherway. Continuing with this rationale: if done in flash, it would have take the team 10x the time to that instead of plain html. or 200x the time if done in a simpler html format, like a wikipedia article. it would work on 100% of the dev…

bottom line is: if the product was good, those kind of sites would not be necessary.

the facts to support that are all the posts here in HN talking about A/B testing on landing pages. What gives more conversions, to good products? flashy shiny things, or to the point information about the advantages and simple call to action?

Re: Nissan Leaf

#40
post #4

Very cool, but I'm not sure creating a site that looks JUST like a flash site is really the right direction... ;)

> Very cool, but I'm not sure creating a site that looks JUST like a flash site is really the right direction... ;)

Don't be silly! everyone wants faster horses! EVERYONE!

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