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Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I downvoted this because even though I like it, it belongs at the bottom of the conversation below any real discussion of the actual article.

Personally I think it belongs at the top. When the article looks like it is generated by the buzzword generator, that should be the real discussion.

It's quite a good article with a solution for a real problem. That it looks like a buzzword generator to HN says more about HN than it does about the article, IMO.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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post #23
post #17

Why would GCP restrict the ports like this?

GCP has a lot of ports restrictions. A place I used to work at migrated from GCP to AWS because they don't allow port 25 incoming; if you're doing e-mail, you 100% need this.

GCP will allow port 25 and smtp, just not by default. Talk to your TAM to make it happen.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

#33

I've yet to see a compelling argument for the complication of kubernetes or the 'its not AWS' nature of GCP over a bog standard AWS ALB with ECS cluster tasks attached to it.

This seems to be a common rhetoric from people who have not invested the time in k8s. It is not as complicated as people think.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

#34
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I think it belongs at the top. When the article looks like it is generated by the buzzword generator, that should be the real discussion.

It's quite a good article with a solution for a real problem. That it looks like a buzzword generator to HN says more about HN than it does about the article, IMO.

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Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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I downvoted this because even though I like it, it belongs at the bottom of the conversation below any real discussion of the actual article.

Dude that's unfair. I cannot control the sorting of comments.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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I've yet to see a compelling argument for the complication of kubernetes or the 'its not AWS' nature of GCP over a bog standard AWS ALB with ECS cluster tasks attached to it.

Because k8s mostly prevents lock-in. A much better idea is to run EKS on Fargate. You still won't have to manage a cluster, but at least you can now use standard k8s manifests that work in any other cluster instead of the ECS homebrew stuff. You can keep ALB, because ALB can run as an Ingress Controller.

Lock-in on the cloud platform with >60% market share? I'm indifferent.

AWS is the VMWare of our age, you'll never get fired for suggesting it. There are workloads that are inappropriate for it (see: Dropbox) but those are few and far between.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

#37
post #33

I've yet to see a compelling argument for the complication of kubernetes or the 'its not AWS' nature of GCP over a bog standard AWS ALB with ECS cluster tasks attached to it.

This seems to be a common rhetoric from people who have not invested the time in k8s. It is not as complicated as people think.

I've used k8s at various times since it's inception. I've yet to see a compelling argument for running your control plane on the same layer as your workloads. I have always found this to be a recipe of disaster when 'something' in your service dependency chain breaks.

Also not having load balancer support built in kills it for me. Yeah you can do metallb or nginx ingress but it means they punted one of the major components needed to make it, 'cloud agnostic.'

Meanwhile in AWS we have ECS which works out the box on fargate, their EC2 hosts, or your own EC2 hosts and on hardware I can easily get (and dev) on docker swarm.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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post #23
post #17

Why would GCP restrict the ports like this?

GCP has a lot of ports restrictions. A place I used to work at migrated from GCP to AWS because they don't allow port 25 incoming; if you're doing e-mail, you 100% need this.

They block it outbound, not inbound - email receiving should work fine in GCP. I believe that's the only mandatory firewall restriction, and even that one can have exceptions made for use cases such as your former employer, as the other reply to you said.

The point is to make sure that anything sending email from GCP has someone properly attending to it, so that GCP does not become a source of spam, rather than to prevent email service providers or the like from using GCP.

For many companies that aren't an email service provider, it's often a better use of IT funds to send via one anyway, given how much work is involved in maintaining security and deliverability of an outbound email server in 2020. Most of those support sending through ports that aren't 25, and Google has some nice free tier deals for GCP customers.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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Is the title peak buzzword-era, or is there more to come?

I think that is unfair. Each of those buzz words were concepts in the article or actual products that GCP offers.

However, this is embarrassing to GCP that this isn’t easier. These were very basic requirements from this customer, yet so much rigmarole was needed to get it set up.

Re: Container-Native Multi-Cluster Global Load Balancing with Cloud Armor on GCP

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