RCMP arrest 'money mules' tied to scam calls from India

Post by raverbashing » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 6:25 AM UTC

gregmac wrote: post #24

mysterypie wrote: post #7

How about putting a small tariff on every phone call originating from countries that do not shut down these fraudulent call centers? The tariff perhaps could be as small as 2 or 10 cents per call to make these operations unprofitable. I'm sure that the telecom operators in the foreign country could easily track down (or already know precisely where to find) the call centers. Once the fraud falls below a threshold the…

My understand use these call centers use VoIP providers in the country though. The traffic crossing the border is likely just an encrypted stream, indistinguishable from some VPN or other generic service. The VoIP providers are getting paid (by the scammers), your cell/phone company is getting paid twice (by both you and the VoIP provider). It's not like customers are switching to the other spam-less phone option, or…

Post by dade_ » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 6:28 AM UTC

gregmac wrote: post #24

mysterypie wrote: post #7

How about putting a small tariff on every phone call originating from countries that do not shut down these fraudulent call centers? The tariff perhaps could be as small as 2 or 10 cents per call to make these operations unprofitable. I'm sure that the telecom operators in the foreign country could easily track down (or already know precisely where to find) the call centers. Once the fraud falls below a threshold the…

My understand use these call centers use VoIP providers in the country though. The traffic crossing the border is likely just an encrypted stream, indistinguishable from some VPN or other generic service. The VoIP providers are getting paid (by the scammers), your cell/phone company is getting paid twice (by both you and the VoIP provider). It's not like customers are switching to the other spam-less phone option, or…

Post by tempestn » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 7:01 AM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #28

fellellor wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not right, that a sensible comment like yours is being downvoted. Spoofing is real, and not easy to track down depending on the resources you have at your disposal. And Indian law enforcement is certainly behind the western world in that regard. Besides, it’s not like these scammers are paying taxes to the Indian government, so they don’t have any national incentive to facilitate scammers. Tax compliance in coun…

> Spoofing is real, and not easy to track down depending on the resources you have at your disposal Mmm, but some Canadian or American legal entity is bridging these onto the phone network, and needs to be doing its due diligence better.

Post by tomcam » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 7:33 AM UTC

pkaye wrote: post #34

Huhty wrote: post #5

I get 2-3 calls like these every week. It's getting really bad.

Its doubly frustrating for me because I'm on a kidney transplant list and there is a small change I might get a call out of the blue even thought there is still some wait time. So I end up answering the phone most of the time...

Post by preommr » Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 7:48 AM UTC

zyang wrote: post #18

Scoundreller wrote: post #14

So the dude had a regular job so it doesn't seem like a kingpin of any kind. They've been tracking him for months, but they decided to take him down once he arrives for work, because ??? His wife is wanted too, but instead of going to where she is, they just call her and ask her to turn herself in? By publicizing the arrest, the police likely killed their change to get the mule to lead to higher-up takedowns, no? Or…

That made me laugh, "unmarked vehicles tailed him, switching positions to avoid detection". Knowing Toronto drivers, I wouldn't be suspicious at all if someone tailgated me all the way to work.