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Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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How do you successfully co-found a massive hit while being addicted to heroin?

It's called high-functioning addiction and there are tens of millions of such people (mostly addicted to alcohol).

I had heard high functioning is a misnomer. They may have one area of focus they can succeed under some definition, but the overall quality of life and relationships is very poor.

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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Same thing happened to Draw Something and Words with Friends. The trick is to get the 9 figure valuation, raise as much funding as possible and then put as much in your pockets before the hype dies down.

Words with Friends managed an actual exit (8 figures, mostly cash): https://venturebeat.com/2011/07/05/zynga-paid-53-3m-to-buy-w...

That's just unbelievable. Digital copy of a decades-old game is worth $50M because of its app store rating.

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post #16

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> Just like Alex Trebek is probably a big part of the reason for Jeopardy's longevity Off topic, but I do wonder what will happen to their ratings when he retires in the next few years. The Price is Right pulled it off, their ratings are apparently higher now than they had been, since they started putting clips on YouTube and other types of "millennial marketing".

Trebek had a strong vision of what the show should be that would be at odds with what most studio execs might prefer. When he's gone, there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. If they do that it will no longer be special and will wither away.

Man, a dumbed down Jeopardy with trendy questions would be so depressing.

My hope is that they hire Ken Jennings and he carries on the tradition fully in honor of Trebek.

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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post #25
post #19

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Trebek had a strong vision of what the show should be that would be at odds with what most studio execs might prefer. When he's gone, there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. If they do that it will no longer be special and will wither away.

> there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. You could see this already in their recent GOAT primetime special. Someone did the numbers, it was like 12% of the questions were about Disney properties.

It was broadcast on ABC nation wide instead of the typical contracted station for any given local market, right? Normally the tournaments are broadcast during normal time slots on the usual market station. Definitely makes sense that the mouse would have insisted on a bit of extra coverage for something I bet they paid a lot for, but I would be hesitant to give that much weight for determining the direction of the standard show.

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Any write-up on their tech stack? I imagine it's not an easy problem at the height of their popularity to scale so many live video feeds with real-time interactions.

I did a little bit of exploring a few years ago [0]. Iirc they just had one live stream for all their shows. All app events (quiz, chat messages) were through websocket.

The founders are ex-Vine founders, who then created a live streaming app called Hype. It looked like they were re-using Hype in HQ according to some URLs like hype.space.

https://github.com/Bekt/hqmania-ai/blob/master/lib/client.js

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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This should be surprising to precisely no one. And this is nothing against HQ Trivia (although the founder seemed like a tool [1]) but any sort of format has a shelf life. Long-lasting shows like Jeopardy are outliers. The more typical case is where a given show will play for a few years, people will get bored with it and it'll be replaced by something else. That's really all that happened here. HQ Trivia had a novel…

> Just like Alex Trebek is probably a big part of the reason for Jeopardy's longevity Off topic, but I do wonder what will happen to their ratings when he retires in the next few years. The Price is Right pulled it off, their ratings are apparently higher now than they had been, since they started putting clips on YouTube and other types of "millennial marketing".

> Off topic, but I do wonder what will happen to their ratings when he retires in the next few years.

OT and somewhat sad but that... won't happen. He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer last year. I'm not sure on his exact prognosis of course but... it seems more likely than not that he won't see 2021 (Fs in the chat).

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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post #25
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trebek had a strong vision of what the show should be that would be at odds with what most studio execs might prefer. When he's gone, there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. If they do that it will no longer be special and will wither away.

> there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. You could see this already in their recent GOAT primetime special. Someone did the numbers, it was like 12% of the questions were about Disney properties.

But were the questions easier or just on a more modern topic?

Arguably the hardest quiz on TV (Only Connect) sometimes has stuff from kid's TV shows (e.g. the surnames of Scooby's human companions) but it's still stupidly hard. There's a difference between needing to know which Disney resort is in Florida and needing to be able to know the first four animated feature films Disney made in order.

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trebek had a strong vision of what the show should be that would be at odds with what most studio execs might prefer. When he's gone, there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. If they do that it will no longer be special and will wither away.

Man, a dumbed down Jeopardy with trendy questions would be so depressing. My hope is that they hire Ken Jennings and he carries on the tradition fully in honor of Trebek.

There was a whole discussion about this on reddit. It would harm them significantly to hire Ken. Due to game show laws, anyone he's ever played trivia with would be ineligible for the show. Since he's big on the trivia circuit, that would be about 1/2 of their contestants.

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post #36
post #16

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> Just like Alex Trebek is probably a big part of the reason for Jeopardy's longevity Off topic, but I do wonder what will happen to their ratings when he retires in the next few years. The Price is Right pulled it off, their ratings are apparently higher now than they had been, since they started putting clips on YouTube and other types of "millennial marketing".

> Off topic, but I do wonder what will happen to their ratings when he retires in the next few years. OT and somewhat sad but that... won't happen. He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer last year. I'm not sure on his exact prognosis of course but... it seems more likely than not that he won't see 2021 (Fs in the chat).

Perhaps. He said in October he was in remission, in December it was back, but they are trying some new experimental treatments. So maybe this will be one of those cases where everyone is happy about rich people having better medical outcomes.

Re: HQ Trivia shuts down after acquisition falls through

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there will be pressure to dumb it down, make the questions easier and more trendy, make it more flashy. You could see this already in their recent GOAT primetime special. Someone did the numbers, it was like 12% of the questions were about Disney properties.

But were the questions easier or just on a more modern topic? Arguably the hardest quiz on TV (Only Connect) sometimes has stuff from kid's TV shows (e.g. the surnames of Scooby's human companions) but it's still stupidly hard. There's a difference between needing to know which Disney resort is in Florida and needing to be able to know the first four animated feature films Disney made in order.

Not easier, just "culturally relevant".
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