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Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Post by croissants »

mc32 wrote: post #12
cwkoss wrote: post #6

"The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature." Does this lend support to the theory that the coronavirus was engineered in Wuhan's bioweapons laboratory?

If that is ever proven and a cover up ensues I’d like to think the people would at last slough off their gov.

I'm not sure that realizing your totalitarian government is more dangerous and less principled than you thought is going to encourage rebellion.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Post by mc32 »

PipeDreamer69 wrote: post #24
mc32 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that is ever proven and a cover up ensues I’d like to think the people would at last slough off their gov.

The Chinese government has done a lot worse to its own people without being "sloughed" off in living memory.

Very true but but people are better informed and are no longer powerless peasants and roboter. They have a bit more self determination.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Post by ceejayoz »

chadmeister wrote: post #22
ajna91 wrote: post #4

A thread by an epidemiologist on the new results: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1223305946723704832

This has been pointed out in previous threads, but this Twitter is full of alarmist unscientific BS and it appears to be spammed with some regularity on HN recently.

This particular person doesn't seem to be an example of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Ding

He's also calling for confirmation before everyone goes nuts:

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1223325141364592640

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Post by ravenstine »

rednerrus wrote: post #29
PipeDreamer69 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese government has done a lot worse to its own people without being "sloughed" off in living memory.

Worse than creating a super plague?

Harvesting organs from political prisoners is pretty bad.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Post by ceejayoz »

rednerrus wrote: post #29
PipeDreamer69 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese government has done a lot worse to its own people without being "sloughed" off in living memory.

Worse than creating a super plague?

Yes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

> A lower-end estimate is 18 million and upper estimates find that some 45 million people died.

That's more than virtually all epidemics. Black Death, Spanish flu, and (maybe) HIV exceed it.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Post by jdhn »

Andhurati wrote: post #20
ajna91 wrote: post #4

A thread by an epidemiologist on the new results: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1223305946723704832

What are the geopolitical ramifications if this is indeed a bioweapon?

Perhaps the US and EU will put aside squabbles caused by the trade war to have a united front against China?
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