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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by kwonkicker »

xvector wrote: post #25
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

Every cow would choose live i imagine. İmagine the world with billions of horny immortal cows.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by echelon »

fernly wrote: post #12

Dubious about the "heart attack" diagnosis, at least as the phrase is usually understood. More likely "Sudden Cardiac Arrest"[1]: "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. [1] https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/guide/sudden-cardiac-dea...

Does this happen in young, healthy individuals?

I was reading the Wikipedia article linked in another thread [1], and several of the "sudden" deaths were people in their 40s that appear to have been healthy.

Do you feel symptoms, eg. during exercise, that you should listen to so as to inform you to stop whatever activity you're doing? Feeling light-headed, short of breath, blurry vision, etc.?

I run and also perform in theater, so I'm a little anxious about this. (Not to be a hypochondriac.)

FWIW, I'm going to do some research on my own, but I'm always impressed with the well-informed audience on HN that spans many disciplines.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by codetrotter »

xvector wrote: post #25
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

A couple of thoughts:

1. If everyone lives until the end of the universe, what does that mean for the prospect of having children? I would think it would mean that we would need to stop having children at some point, or else we would overcrowd whatever portion of space that we are occupying at some point. Not being allowed to have children would be sad. I don’t have any children yet, but I want to have children in the future. It is an amazing thing.

2. Neuroplasticity decreases as we grow older. If we live forever, could we end up being stuck forever in our old ways?

3. Evolution could change us in very interesting ways. But only if new humans are born and old ones die.

4. What’s the point of living until the end of the universe anyway? I mean, I agree that life is too short and it would be cool to witness what the world was like in the future. But to live until the end of the universe.. I would not enjoy that.

5. Tbh I’d rather die of natural causes than have to kill myself. As long as my life is not ended too soon I will be content for having been alive and having had all of the good and some of the bad experiences that I have had. (Most of the bad ones I would rather have done without, but some of the bad ones were useful, and we don’t get to choose these things anyway.)

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by maxwin »

codetrotter wrote: post #33
xvector wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

A couple of thoughts: 1. If everyone lives until the end of the universe, what does that mean for the prospect of having children? I would think it would mean that we would need to stop having children at some point, or else we would overcrowd whatever portion of space that we are occupying at some point. Not being allowed to have children would be sad. I don’t have any children yet, but I want to have children in th…

I don't understand why whenever there is a discussion about aging research, people always bring out the problem of us living forever or till the end of the universe. I mean how about just double or triple our lifespan which is nothing wrong and we still have no idea how to do that. I think maybe the reason why so many people is against it is because of religion.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by [deleted] »

kwonkicker wrote: post #31
xvector wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

Every cow would choose live i imagine. İmagine the world with billions of horny immortal cows.

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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by kittiepryde »

codetrotter wrote: post #33
xvector wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

A couple of thoughts: 1. If everyone lives until the end of the universe, what does that mean for the prospect of having children? I would think it would mean that we would need to stop having children at some point, or else we would overcrowd whatever portion of space that we are occupying at some point. Not being allowed to have children would be sad. I don’t have any children yet, but I want to have children in th…

I would think, that if, living forever in perfect health was as easy taking a shot, a pill, or even drinking from the public water supply ( we might get very creative when distributing the aging cure ), society would probably view dying of natural causes as killing yourself.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by codetrotter »

maxwin wrote: post #34
codetrotter wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of thoughts: 1. If everyone lives until the end of the universe, what does that mean for the prospect of having children? I would think it would mean that we would need to stop having children at some point, or else we would overcrowd whatever portion of space that we are occupying at some point. Not being allowed to have children would be sad. I don’t have any children yet, but I want to have children in th…

I don't understand why whenever there is a discussion about aging research, people always bring out the problem of us living forever or till the end of the universe. I mean how about just double or triple our lifespan which is nothing wrong and we still have no idea how to do that. I think maybe the reason why so many people is against it is because of religion.

Double or triple would be fine. I am not religious. The person that I am responding to explicitly said he wanted for life to extend to the end of the universe, so that’s why I am responding with my thoughts about exactly that.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by adventured »

c3534l wrote: post #11

I've heard a few stories where a person seemed to suddenly acknowledge that they were about to die. Granted, my grandmother repeatedly claimed she was going to die that night and the one time it was true the family lore became that she somehow knew. But to stop what you're doing like that, I wonder what it is they're actually feeling in the moment. Did he know he was going to die? Did he just feel dizzy? What do peop…

When my grandmother died, she sent her husband out to the store, took off her rings (which she never removed), and was dead when he returned.

She had been in failing health, was around 90 years old, had recently gone through a rough fight with cancer, a broken leg from a fall, and had just been in a nursing home temporarily. She fought with everyone to be allowed to go home and die, she didn't want to die in the nursing home. She went home and died a few days later.

She very clearly knew.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by k_sze »

userbinator wrote: post #17
monksy wrote: post #13

A British comedian did this as well.. The audience thought it was apart of the act and didn't respond for 5 minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Cognito Also apparently this is a thing that happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...

Also apparently this is a thing that happens Besides getting killed by something or someone else, it seems heart attacks are a very common cause of death while performing. I wonder if it's due to the stressful nature of the situation in general.

It's astounding, if you open the wikipedia list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...) and make your browser highlight all occurrences of the words "heart" and "cardiac".

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by avip »

xvector wrote: post #25
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

There's a tale for that - soldier and Death. Even had a storyteller episode.
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