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Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents
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Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents
#32(1) stop using checks already and (2) legal documents should always have the full date (spelled out) on them anyway, so if you just use '20' then that would have been wrong anyway, but 11/Dec/20.
(1) stop using checks already I always find it interesting how people of a certain age, and especially in technology bubbles, enjoy restricting their options so much, as if there is some kind of nobility in giving themselves fewer choices and less freedom in life. Best tool for the job is on Windows? No way, I only use bespoke FrotzOS distributions on a laptop I built myself from parts I reflowed in my co-living oven…
Checks are only a thing in the US because there is no proper banking infrastructure. Here in the EU we can transfer money person-to-person, person-to-business and business-to-business instantly between a very large variety of banking institutions spanning 10's of countries. No need for routing instructions, correspondent banks, transfer accounts or any of that bs, and it's cheap to boot.
There is absolutely no reason why the United States could not do the same, in fact it would be easier there. Payment systems in the United States are archaic and error prone. They also tend to offload the risk of fraud onto the consumers/merchants and I suspect that plus the fees are the bigger reasons why the banks are reluctant to get their act together.
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#33Yet more reason to use the objectively correct date format. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Dates
That is the right format but 'normal people' assume context first so the 12th of January without further context indicates the present year and the 12th of January 2019 or just '19 is enough to disambiguate. The ISO date code was created with computers in mind (sort order) but real people are not computers and besides that there are quite a few other date systems in the world so it is biased to Gregorian anyway.
> so called 'normal people' ... context first ... indicates the present year
If I refer to 12th of January during Christmas, do I refer to the one that is just a few weeks away or the one that is in the present year?
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I'd love for this meme not to take hold on HN. Thank you.
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#35(1) stop using checks already and (2) legal documents should always have the full date (spelled out) on them anyway, so if you just use '20' then that would have been wrong anyway, but 11/Dec/20.
(1) stop using checks already I always find it interesting how people of a certain age, and especially in technology bubbles, enjoy restricting their options so much, as if there is some kind of nobility in giving themselves fewer choices and less freedom in life. Best tool for the job is on Windows? No way, I only use bespoke FrotzOS distributions on a laptop I built myself from parts I reflowed in my co-living oven…
Many countries have phased out checks. Others only have them as a legacy option. The change happened really fast.
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#36Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents
#37This meme is analyzed in detail by a lawyer and his friend in the middle of this podcast: https://openargs.com/oa347-pennhurst-and-the-voter-purge-in-...
Could you give us a summary, or a reason to bother listening to it?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is the right format but 'normal people' assume context first so the 12th of January without further context indicates the present year and the 12th of January 2019 or just '19 is enough to disambiguate. The ISO date code was created with computers in mind (sort order) but real people are not computers and besides that there are quite a few other date systems in the world so it is biased to Gregorian anyway.
> so called 'normal people' ... context first ... indicates the present year If I refer to 12th of January during Christmas, do I refer to the one that is just a few weeks away or the one that is in the present year?
Again, that is a context thing. If you are talking about your sons upcoming birthday that would be the nearest one. I rarely see people referring to events by the exact date if it isn't some momentous occasion (9/11 ... but what year?), or to plan something.
If you typically refer to all days of the year past when the upcoming one is very close then you'd probably make that plain with some note on context. If not you might find yourself with an unscheduled party on your hands :)
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#40(1) stop using checks already and (2) legal documents should always have the full date (spelled out) on them anyway, so if you just use '20' then that would have been wrong anyway, but 11/Dec/20.
Seems like a joke, to think that people still use cheques somewhere... like what the fuck
I wish I could live a simple life like you.
Want to buy some land? Get ready to write a check to some person or government agency along the way.
Want to transfer money from your account in bank to another with zero fees? Write a check.
Want to start a business? Expect to write a check along the way.
Want to stay in a hotel in some of the world's most interesting places? Cash or travelers checks. Credit card, if you're lucky, but then with a big fee, and they might not have internet.
The real world isn't all online. It isn't all electronic. It isn't Star Trek.