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>everybody who know how to recognize them will see them popup everywhere. Just out of curiosity, what are the tells for a drug dealer in Amsterdam? Asking for a friend.
One time I was in Amsterdam, a guy approached us and pretty bluntly asked if we need any cocaine. That was pretty telling.
Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
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#32I hope XTC gets legalized in the Netherlands as soon as possible. One of the ruling parties (D66) is currently investigating a proposal to do so. We are a very large producer (the largest?) and the stuff is not harmful enough to warrant the prohibition and all of the crime it entails.
Oh cmon. I live in Europe and I'm all for legalizing drugs, all drugs, but only a few popular drugs come to my mind which are more harmful then MDMA... Americans can talk about how harmful fake MDMA is and how you can manage risk better if it's legal. But anyone living in Europe, where there's loads of high quality stuff selling for a few euros per dose, and socialising with other users can easily see the harm it doe…
It doesn't really matter how bad it is for you since, at the moment, nothing is stopping you from buying and swallowing as much as you can. The ones who will do harm with it when legalized are the same ones who do it now. The legality of it does not do anything to stop harm from being done.
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#35I hope XTC gets legalized in the Netherlands as soon as possible. One of the ruling parties (D66) is currently investigating a proposal to do so. We are a very large producer (the largest?) and the stuff is not harmful enough to warrant the prohibition and all of the crime it entails.
Oh cmon. I live in Europe and I'm all for legalizing drugs, all drugs, but only a few popular drugs come to my mind which are more harmful then MDMA... Americans can talk about how harmful fake MDMA is and how you can manage risk better if it's legal. But anyone living in Europe, where there's loads of high quality stuff selling for a few euros per dose, and socialising with other users can easily see the harm it doe…
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#36What also doesnt help is that drugs is kind-a accepted in the party scene. XTC, Cocaine, in certain circles its quite normal that its used. And buying it is very easy. Also the police doesn't prioritize handling this. I heard that accross one police station taxis would stop, get somebody in the cart, drive 100m, and then the person gets out. The police knew that drugs was being dealed here, but they didnt prioritize…
>everybody who know how to recognize them will see them popup everywhere. Just out of curiosity, what are the tells for a drug dealer in Amsterdam? Asking for a friend.
I was there just recently and you practically need to push them away. Even when I got an uber back to the hotel the driver tried to sell me weed, some kind of gas canisters with laughing gas or something, and a handful other similar shit.
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#37What also doesnt help is that drugs is kind-a accepted in the party scene. XTC, Cocaine, in certain circles its quite normal that its used. And buying it is very easy. Also the police doesn't prioritize handling this. I heard that accross one police station taxis would stop, get somebody in the cart, drive 100m, and then the person gets out. The police knew that drugs was being dealed here, but they didnt prioritize…
>everybody who know how to recognize them will see them popup everywhere. Just out of curiosity, what are the tells for a drug dealer in Amsterdam? Asking for a friend.
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#38Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...
If the unskilled young men were left in their home country, they would still be unskilled for the rest of their lives. But, by bringing them in we are not only teaching them how to be more skilled, but also teaching our society how to more efficiently take unskilled workers and bring them up to a highly skilled workers who can live a middle class life style like you or me. This is because the more you focus on someth…
All the "let's welcome immigrants" discourse might give warm feelings to some but it does not help solving the issues in the countries of origin, and it also creates social issues in the countries of destination.
I think it would be much more helpful to e.g. have more students programs whereby bright young people from these countries can get visas and scholarships to study and get a professional experience in Europe with the hard requirement that they must then return to their home countries afterwards.
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#39I hope XTC gets legalized in the Netherlands as soon as possible. One of the ruling parties (D66) is currently investigating a proposal to do so. We are a very large producer (the largest?) and the stuff is not harmful enough to warrant the prohibition and all of the crime it entails.
Oh cmon. I live in Europe and I'm all for legalizing drugs, all drugs, but only a few popular drugs come to my mind which are more harmful then MDMA... Americans can talk about how harmful fake MDMA is and how you can manage risk better if it's legal. But anyone living in Europe, where there's loads of high quality stuff selling for a few euros per dose, and socialising with other users can easily see the harm it doe…
What I do see is MDMA being more and more accepted as a therapeutic tool, given further studies will confirm what the research has told us until now.
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#40I like how the conservative BBC, writing from a country whose murder rate is double that of the Netherlands, is trying to hype up violence Amsterdam because they don't like drugs. What a bunch of shit.