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Re: Database Internals

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Post by travisjeffery »

zerr wrote: post #21
travisjeffery wrote: post #11

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I'm currently writing a book for PragProg called Building Distributed Services with Go (though it mostly applies to other languages too) that's walks you through building a distributed database from scratch. You can sign up on this mailing list to know when it's available: https://travisjeffery.us4.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1e3ff7...

Do you have an experience or learning along writing? (also a legit/common way)

Yeah---each chapter begins with background on the chapter's topic, some theory, covers how and where you'd use what's we're talking about in the chapter and then we use it to build a part of the project we're building throughout the book. For example, in the consensus chapter we talk about what problems it solves and how you can use it in your projects,and then we implement Raft in the service for leader election and replication.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by zerr »

travisjeffery wrote: post #17
_rkz1 wrote: post #15

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Awesome. Just signed up. Any ideas on what the pricing will be like?

Not sure, haven't gotten to that yet. Just from looking at the prices of other PragProg books somewhere around $21.95-24.95.

Is it still worth (materialistically) writing a book considering (see PRICING section) http://fabiensanglard.net/gebbdoom/ ?

Re: Database Internals

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Post by HappyJoy »

zerr wrote: post #28
manigandham wrote: post #10

I also recommend following Andy Pavlo and the CMU Database Group which has lots of free courses, videos and material: https://db.cs.cmu.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnBsf2rH-K7pn09rb3qvkA

It suffers from the common issue for such content - theory/lectures are too diverged from the practical/lab part.

You can try the homework assignments. They aren't trivial and you'll probably learn a bunch more by not being spoon fed the answers. Admittedly, the only bummer is not having someone review your work.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by HappyJoy »

Database Design and Implementation by Edward Sciore implements a fully working relational database from buffer manager up to parser and beyond. It's very much in the spirit of Tanenbaum's OS book.

Here's the landing page for the book's implementation: http://www.cs.bc.edu/~sciore/simpledb/intro.html

Unfortunately, I don't think the book is in print anymore.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by travisjeffery »

zerr wrote: post #32
travisjeffery wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure, haven't gotten to that yet. Just from looking at the prices of other PragProg books somewhere around $21.95-24.95.

Is it still worth (materialistically) writing a book considering (see PRICING section) http://fabiensanglard.net/gebbdoom/ ?

I'm not doing it for the money. Writing a worthwhile book is about the least efficient way to make money.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by manigandham »

zerr wrote: post #28
manigandham wrote: post #10

I also recommend following Andy Pavlo and the CMU Database Group which has lots of free courses, videos and material: https://db.cs.cmu.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnBsf2rH-K7pn09rb3qvkA

It suffers from the common issue for such content - theory/lectures are too diverged from the practical/lab part.

There's nothing stopping you from just writing code following the lectures. What else would a practical/lab part be? \

There are tons of open-source databases on github that you can hack on so I don't think there's a major issue with getting practical experience if you want it.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by ifesdjeen »

Stratoscope wrote: post #30
ifesdjeen wrote: post #24

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Preferring one font over the other is more a question of taste, but I think you're right about font-weight: it does read better with 400. Thanks for the tip!

And thank you for being so responsive to feedback! It's much easier to read now. I also want to apologize for my comment being a little grouchy; I should know better than to comment on style and readability in the wee hours. :-)

Sure thing! Appreciate that you've figured out what was wrong with that font, too.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by ifesdjeen »

zzzcpan wrote: post #27
mesaframe wrote: post #26

In past few days I've heard so many praises and also I have heard so much criticism about Database Books in general. What makes this book so much better?

It depends on your goal. Database internals books are not worth reading if you want to work on implementing real world database engines. You are better off checking out internals and documentation of various implementations and also research papers in that field. And you would be doing your own research anyway. But if you are just starting out in programming, it's probably as good book as any to learn something new a…

I completely agree that it always depends on the goal. I'd also add a second vector: experience. If you've already worked with distributed and/or storage systems and have understanding of the field, you can jump straight to papers and code. However, for people who are just starting, it may be beneficial to read an overview book and get familiar with a field. This book attempts to be that a starting point that can help to navigate database papers and code.

Some of the folks I talked to who have already worked with databases a lot mentioned they've benefited from the book as well, since there were some concepts they were less familiar with or never had to learn (for example, transactional processing for the folks who have mostly worked with on eventually consistent databases; or B-Tree details for the folks who have mostly worked on LSM-Based storage engine)

Disclaimer: I'm author of this book.

Re: Database Internals

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Post by zerr »

travisjeffery wrote: post #35
zerr wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it still worth (materialistically) writing a book considering (see PRICING section) http://fabiensanglard.net/gebbdoom/ ?

I'm not doing it for the money. Writing a worthwhile book is about the least efficient way to make money.

Not sure about how least efficient though, indirectly it will help a lot I believe.
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