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Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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On the contrary, it's a bit sad that she failed to see the real value she was offering - she didn't have to worry about the robot failing, but she most definitely had to worry about the VIDEO failing. An uninteresting video with a flawless robot is far less interesting than a video from Simone about a knife chopping robot that can't really chop, because it was still funny and insightful. She started the genre but it'…

> I ask her whether [the brain tumor] helped mark this turning point for her. The answer is yes, but also no. Even before the brain tumor, Giertz says, she was starting to feel like “it was harder and harder to come up with ideas. I was always concerned that it was eventually going to be like beating a dead horse, and that the joke was going to be over and I didn't have anywhere else to go.” I don't read this being a…

I see it more as it being a joke that has been done to death. Sometimes it's just time to move on. Nothing wrong with that.

That said, I do hope she does more machine comedy. I love unusual forms of comedy.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

Isn't that a good thing, since they're getting more recognition (people learning their first name), or am I missing something more subtle here?

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

IME, that reflects (at least American) society in general, where males are referred to by their last names among friends much more often than females.

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> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

I have a lot of mixed, mostly melancholy feelings about her self reflection there. The talk about imposter syndrome and self deprecation is something that rings true to a lot of talented people, not just women, and the power of her videos is that she demonstrates that failure is a part of success. With most media you usually see a carefully choreographed final product that appears flawless and intimdating. You don't…

Simone made shitty robots in the same way that Rodney Dangerfield got no respect. Simone was never the Queen of the Shitty Robots, she was the person who created the Queen of the Shitty Robots. And in so doing, she showed how to make a success out of something that appeared on its surface to be a failure. Hell, she even took a fucking brain tumor (in her own brain!) and turned it into humor. It is hard for me to imagine a more worthwhile thing a human being can do. Simone, like Rodney, deserves tremendous respect.

To say nothing of the fact that Truckla is just fucking awesome.

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I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

Isn't that a good thing, since they're getting more recognition (people learning their first name), or am I missing something more subtle here?

I had a female CS professor who noticed (and disliked) that students were a lot more likely to use her first name while calling male professors Dr. Whatever.

A lot of men) tend to perceive women as warmer, more nurturing, more approachable than their male counterparts; their approach to them is less formal, less respectful, more chummy. There are situations where that approach is appropriate, but the tendency to use it with every professional woman you meet is a problem.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

You're right, and it's not just youtube comments. There was a large study at Cornell last year; it generalizes to society at large, and has detrimental effects for women [1].

[1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180702145605.h...

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Side note: Why couldn't Tesla license her truck design instead of the Cybertruck. Sigh.

I don't think Tesla needs to license her design as there is no trademark or patent. They can start manufacturing mini-pickups any time they want to. They probably aren't because the market for small electric pickups with miniature beds is a small one. The direction they are going seems like the right one to me; big, powerful, featured, luxurious vehicles that absolutely out-class ICE vehicles and leave us wondering why we spent a century going the wrong way, is the correct market to address. Musk being a dick driving around LA in his hulking machine is also correct and brilliant marketing.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

IME, that reflects (at least American) society in general, where males are referred to by their last names among friends much more often than females.

It goes back to coaches using last names in sports practices. This probably is changing as there is more gender balance in youth sports.

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My daughter, who is interested in science and engineering loved the shitty robot videos. It was a form of engineering comedy. I guess if she wasn't a women, creating shitty robots would be just funny and inventive way that she figured out how to make money. Comedians make people laugh using inventive and unexpected constructions, she was no different. A lot of comedians do things that are in one way or another demean…

I have to admit that I am surprised that neither the article nor any of the HN posters have mentioned Rube Goldberg, whose humorous cartoons involving improbable contraptions to solve everyday problems seems to me an obvious predecessor to Simone Giertz.

Rube Goldberg had a predecessor. The machine that came before Colossus at Bletchley was named Heath Robinson after him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Heath_Robinson
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