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Re: Readability's new service

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Post by sudonim »

beaumartinez wrote: post #25
quellhorst wrote: post #10

My old readability bookmarklet isn't working now.

Really? Mine (yet) works fine. I'm using Google Chrome 8; my bookmarklet is: javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=true;readStyle='style-apertura';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src=' http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.... );document.documentElement…

Slightly O/t, but at what level do you get downvotes? I'd like to use one here.

Re: Readability's new service

#32

Post by beaumartinez »

beaumartinez wrote: post #25
quellhorst wrote: post #10

My old readability bookmarklet isn't working now.

Really? Mine (yet) works fine. I'm using Google Chrome 8; my bookmarklet is: javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=true;readStyle='style-apertura';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src=' http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.... );document.documentElement…

Why all the downvotes? I only wanted to point out that the old bookmark worked fine for me. Is it due to the JavaScript I posted (in an attempt to help a fellow commenter) "breaking the page"? If so, perhaps that is more the website's design's fault rather than mine. (I'd edit the JS it into a gist if I could but the editing time has passed; additionally, I can't delete the offending comment.)

Perhaps next time you could point out why someone has been downvoted as well so as for them not to repeat their mistake again?

I'm very sorry for the inconvenience!

Re: Readability's new service

#33

Post by beaumartinez »

sudonim wrote: post #31
beaumartinez wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Mine (yet) works fine. I'm using Google Chrome 8; my bookmarklet is: javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=true;readStyle='style-apertura';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src=' http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.... );document.documentElement…

Slightly O/t, but at what level do you get downvotes? I'd like to use one here.

I apologise for the inconvenience! Is it due to the long JavaScript? I didn't think it'd break the formatting, and now that I have realised I can't edit or delete it.

Could you please tell me why you want to downvote my comment? Thanks!

Re: Readability's new service

#34

Post by modernerd »

eli wrote: post #29

More details in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/technology/01read.html?_r=... Isn't this just begging to get sued by some publisher who really doesn't want to participate? IANAL, but it seems like they'd have a decent case.

I suspect that they'll have to allow publishers to opt out if they wish to, in the same way that Instapaper does: http://www.instapaper.com/publishers

I don't think it likely that many publishers will opt out, though. They'll still get ad impressions for the initial page load in addition to the kickback for the visitor's readability click.

Re: Readability's new service

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Post by sjs »

beaumartinez wrote: post #32
beaumartinez wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Mine (yet) works fine. I'm using Google Chrome 8; my bookmarklet is: javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=true;readStyle='style-apertura';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src=' http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.... );document.documentElement…

Why all the downvotes? I only wanted to point out that the old bookmark worked fine for me. Is it due to the JavaScript I posted (in an attempt to help a fellow commenter) "breaking the page"? If so, perhaps that is more the website's design's fault rather than mine. (I'd edit the JS it into a gist if I could but the editing time has passed; additionally, I can't delete the offending comment.) Perhaps next time you c…

I think it's because this page has been rendered unreadable now. The irony of this comments page having poor readability is not lost on me :)

Re: Readability's new service

#36

Post by eli »

modernerd wrote: post #34
eli wrote: post #29

More details in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/technology/01read.html?_r=... Isn't this just begging to get sued by some publisher who really doesn't want to participate? IANAL, but it seems like they'd have a decent case.

I suspect that they'll have to allow publishers to opt out if they wish to, in the same way that Instapaper does: http://www.instapaper.com/publishers I don't think it likely that many publishers will opt out, though. They'll still get ad impressions for the initial page load in addition to the kickback for the visitor's readability click.

Statements like, The company plans to pay them "regardless of their participation." make me think otherwise

Re: Readability's new service

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Post by mike-cardwell »

So as a website owner I get paid each time a paying readability user views my website in readability?

If I get my pages to load a second copy of themselves inside a hidden iframe, except including the extra readability bookmarklet js, will that allow me to "game the system" by getting every visitor to my site to view (in the background) my site via readability...

I would never do this. It was just a thought...

Re: Readability's new service

#39

Post by modernerd »

eli wrote: post #36
modernerd wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that they'll have to allow publishers to opt out if they wish to, in the same way that Instapaper does: http://www.instapaper.com/publishers I don't think it likely that many publishers will opt out, though. They'll still get ad impressions for the initial page load in addition to the kickback for the visitor's readability click.

Statements like, The company plans to pay them "regardless of their participation." make me think otherwise

I didn't read that as 'the company will pay them even if they explicitly don't want to be paid'. I read it as, 'the company will attempt to make contact and pay them even if they haven't yet signed up.'

Re: Readability's new service

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Post by stinkytaco »

eps wrote: post #2

The only pages I am using the Readability bookmarklet on are those that are impossible to read in their native design. Rewarding authors of such pages (and effctively excluding well-designed blogs from the rewarding process altogether) seems counter-productive. Also this gives them a tangible incentive to not improve the usability of their websites. I'm all for micropayng for the content, but this solution is backwar…

I think of it more like a micropayment system and I like the idea. It's not like I can't continue to use readability (or Safari's built in add-on), but this sets up a system to subscribe to content with some value added. I understand your point that people might only use it for sites they use readability for, but I think it could also be used like instapaper, a way of getting your reading in one place the way you want it. You're probably right that there should be some incentive for sites that "play by the rules."

The move to all online content is actually a bit disturbing to me because, as a librarian, I see print magazines go under and leave libraries out in the cold in terms of getting the content to users. Paywalls are designed for individuals, not institutions. I hope the "one subscription" model might catch on as there's a way to include institutions in that mix.

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