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Tesla Tripp Police Report Released
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Definitely, I agree that they may have been invalid claims and that screwups do happen. What concerns me is that may have been Tripp was truly sincere if not misguided. Tesla's 100 million dollar lawsuit, however, sends a chilling message that if you harm Tesla, they may go after you with incredible force.
Chilling? That’s normal corporate behaviour. It would be more weird if they didn’t react.
What a depressing attitude. Just because something is common doesn't mean it's acceptable.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
they don’t sell anywhere close to “more EVs than anyone else”.
Yes they do. Not sure what numbers you're looking at to say otherwise.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Definitely, I agree that they may have been invalid claims and that screwups do happen. What concerns me is that may have been Tripp was truly sincere if not misguided. Tesla's 100 million dollar lawsuit, however, sends a chilling message that if you harm Tesla, they may go after you with incredible force.
Chilling? That’s normal corporate behaviour. It would be more weird if they didn’t react.
Nope. It's pointless to sue a private individual for 100 million dollars. Even if those losses were real, there's no way to recoup them from an unemployed engineer. Tesla is going to spend a lot of money on legal fees with no potential upside -- except that they can fuck up Tripp's life.
It's pretty clear that the goal of these lawsuits is not to recoup losses, but instead to silence critics, and to attack someone that alledgedly "betrayed" Tesla.
This is not normal corporate behavior. Normal companies don't try to swat their ex-employees. Normal companies don't start lawsuits on the whim of their CEO.
Normal companies either don't talk at all about employees that make crazy allegations, or they make a press release thanking the whistleblower, stating that they investigated the allegations and determined that there are no problems and everything is fine!
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> "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Well, the most favorable thing you could say about $TSLA is that Musk hasn't managed to destroy the company, in spite of his well-known and recurring antics.
Given that they’re currently producing over 90,000 cars per quarter, and that their products have consistently been the benchmark EV for eight years, I think there are plenty of other favourable things you could say about them? I’m not remotely a fanboy of that company but your comment does seem to be out of whack with the scale of their success despite gargantuan odds.
> the benchmark EV for eight years
Really? Tesla is spyware on wheels. The first time I can remember hearing about their consumer products was about someone finding their car remotely disabled because they'd found an ethernet port in it and plugged into it.
I mostly see it referenced in a mocking way about conspicuous consumption and weird corporate antics. They were even made fun of on the TV show Silicon Valley.
We have an EV at my household (a nissan leaf) which we like very much. A tesla would never have been a consideration. Googling briefly shows that worldwide leafs outnumber tesla on the road by a significant margin.
I think we inhabit very different bubbles.
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#36I don't get what is "stunning" here? Maybe I am missing some context? Someone called Tesla to advise that Tripp was heavily armed and coming at the Gigafactory. Tesla called the police, which then looked for Tripp and found the information to be false. Subsequently, the police tried to identify who placed the initial call, and found that the caller was just "a concerned friend", as they knew Tripp to be unstable and…
Tesla claimed that someone called. Has the call been released? To me it looks like one of Musk goons tried to have a whistle blower shot by the police...
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
they don’t sell anywhere close to “more EVs than anyone else”.
Yes they do. Not sure what numbers you're looking at to say otherwise.
nope. although, i was wrong about not even close. it seems i was remembering an old stat.
https://thedriven.io/2019/02/06/tesla-byd-fight-for-lead-in-...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/electric-car-sales-china-vs-...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-16/the-world...
https://qz.com/1606881/chinas-byd-reports-632-jump-in-profit...
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes they do. Not sure what numbers you're looking at to say otherwise.
nope. although, i was wrong about not even close. it seems i was remembering an old stat. https://thedriven.io/2019/02/06/tesla-byd-fight-for-lead-in-... https://www.wired.co.uk/article/electric-car-sales-china-vs-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-16/the-world... https://qz.com/1606881/chinas-byd-reports-632-jump-in-profit...
Your first link says:
> Looking purely at BEV sales (according to data from EV-Volumes), Tesla leads the way
That first chart that confirms your beliefs measures both EV and Hybrid. I seriously doubt anyone is conflating those two things here. Additionally, considering both EV and Hybrid, the difference between Tesla and BYD is less than one percent. Your arguments would be much more persuasive if you weren't so clearly biased...
Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that they’re currently producing over 90,000 cars per quarter, and that their products have consistently been the benchmark EV for eight years, I think there are plenty of other favourable things you could say about them? I’m not remotely a fanboy of that company but your comment does seem to be out of whack with the scale of their success despite gargantuan odds.
> the benchmark EV for eight years Really? Tesla is spyware on wheels. The first time I can remember hearing about their consumer products was about someone finding their car remotely disabled because they'd found an ethernet port in it and plugged into it. I mostly see it referenced in a mocking way about conspicuous consumption and weird corporate antics. They were even made fun of on the TV show Silicon Valley. We…
> Googling briefly shows
I do not understand how people can confirm their beliefs so quickly with such little effort. If a stat makes you feel good, you should probably look into more than usual.
According to insideevs.com and QZ.com, in the US, there are 133,178 Leafs sold _ever_ since 2010. Since 2017, there have been 190,000 Model 3s sold. Sources: https://qz.com/1703260/teslas-model-3-may-never-catch-up-to-... https://insideevs.com/news/347565/nissan-leaf-sales-outlook-...
When considering globally, 200,000 Leafs were sold in the first 5 years on the market. The Model approaches that number in a single year (2019) in a single country (US). It's _somewhat_ possible, that for a brief period of time in early 2018, it was true there were more Leafs on the road than Teslas, but that's a bit like being a Nokia fan on January 10th, 2007 saying "Oh, but there are far more Nokias than iPhones in the world". Certainly not a "significant margin".
It's totally and completely fine to dislike Telsa - and I don't disagree with the spyware comment, but please don't decide a thing, and then go google to find evidence of that thing you decided.