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Re: Stop Using Facebook

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Post by tzs »

The site would make a stronger case if it just kept its stronger points and dropped the ones that are weak. Some weak ones:

This would make a better case if it dropped the ones that are kind of weak.

> Because Facebook was covertly paying teens 13 years old and older to spy on them.

Didn't this involve people who explicitly download and app that told you it was going to gather this data for research in exchange for payment? I'm having a bit of a problem seeing what was covert about it.

> Because Facebook gave exclusive access to your private messages and friends to large tech companies, device vendors, retailers, entertainment sites, automakers and media organizations.

And with this one I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what "exclusive access" means here. It sounds like it was pretty much the opposite of exclusive. I'm not saying giving you data out non-exclusively is better than giving it out exclusively--just that this "exclusive access" claim makes little sense.

> Because Facebook facilitated Brexit by spreading misinformation, made a fortune and tried to sue to prevent people from finding out.

The essences of this seems to be that people pushing "leave" bought ads on Facebook, and that some of the people who bought the ads may have been shady.

> Because Facebook employees say “F*ck ethics, money is everything”.

One engineer said that on Blind. I'm pretty sure you can find one employee with that attitude at pretty much any employer that pays well and has over 100 employees.

Re: Stop Using Facebook

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Post by gremlinsinc »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #14
jammygit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are “these calls to action” just preaching to the choir? Over the last year a bunch of people I know have stopped using google search, Facebook, and the epic games launcher. It’s working slowly

Actual Google and Facebook usage data strongly suggests otherwise. In cases where one could argue that people are leaving Facebook for a competitor, it has nothing to do with privacy concerns (it would certainly be laughable if anyone thought TikTok would be better in terms of privacy).

I've left mostly because of numbness FB leaves me w/ -- my mind is literally numb from all the hate articles/etc propagated and I see the same crap over and over.

I still have an account, and use messenger w/ wife when she's out and about... but for a social/news 'feed', I've moved over to reddit... the conversations/discussions are a LOT deeper and less assinine (and that's saying something considering some of the culture at reddit can be toxic itself). Plus I can drill down on topics via multi-reddits and such...depending on my mood.

There's also a bit more candor and shock factor on reddit cause of the supposed anonymity people tend to say what they really think even when it's appalling to most other people, so you definitely get a full-spectrum of discussion. It just feels more 'cerebral'.

Re: Stop Using Facebook

#34

Post by yoz-y »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #33
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actual Google and Facebook usage data strongly suggests otherwise. In cases where one could argue that people are leaving Facebook for a competitor, it has nothing to do with privacy concerns (it would certainly be laughable if anyone thought TikTok would be better in terms of privacy).

I've left mostly because of numbness FB leaves me w/ -- my mind is literally numb from all the hate articles/etc propagated and I see the same crap over and over. I still have an account, and use messenger w/ wife when she's out and about... but for a social/news 'feed', I've moved over to reddit... the conversations/discussions are a LOT deeper and less assinine (and that's saying something considering some of the c…

The big difference between reddit and facebook discussion (at least outside of facebook groups) is that people group by interest rather than social graph. Most of my family and friends are not interested in stuff I am.
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