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Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by pavel_lishin » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:20 PM UTC

d4rky wrote: post #20

You can do it in the desktop app as well. If you run it with SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true in env vars, it'll enable you to right click to Inspect Element, open devtools and run this code snippet there

This is incredible.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by pavel_lishin » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:21 PM UTC

tolqen wrote: post #19

kodablah wrote: post #12

Doing some security debugging on Slack desktop a year or so ago, I saw that you could easily open up a Chrome debugger port via CLI option to use with puppeteer/chromedp/etc. I haven't checked lately, but in theory it should be easy enough to connect to the debug port and run this short script to get the same benefit in the Electron app.

You should be able to press Cmd+Shift+I and open the developer console.

Doesn't work for me, just opens the channel info window.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by pavel_lishin » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:22 PM UTC

notkaiho wrote: post #27

sodosopa wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does html work? Why not use it instead?

No, HTML is not part of how you can format text in Slack.

HTML would also be a pretty verbose way to format text I'm typing out to coworkers, etc.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by radlad » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:23 PM UTC

I've been struggling with the new editor for the past week or so. I finally sent this feedback to Slack today:

  Hi there, when the WYSIWYG editor rolled out, I was pleased to see it could be disabled with the "Aa" button in the bottom right. I quickly realized it's not disabled, the toolbar is just hidden.
  
  Here are the problems I run into:
  
  1. Typing ``` and then pasting and typing it again (force of habit from *every other service that uses Markdown* including Slack up until this point), leaving me with an extra ``` inside my code block.
  2. Typing >, pasting, and hitting enter too quickly that it doesn't seem to register. Or it registers for one line, but not the rest. Then I have to fix the rest. I'd prefer the old method of simply typing > in front of each line, consistently. But even when I try this, sometimes > doesn't get converted to quotes.
  3. Typing :emoji_name: often times results in me typing the name too quickly, and, similar to the bad auto-selection of @-names, it chooses an emoji whose name I didn't type (even though I typed an emoji name exactly). Please just don't touch it until the full thing is parsed on send.
  4. *foo*, _foo_, etc. -- again, I type very quickly (~158wpm when going my fastest) and these aren't getting converted. I'd expect if they don't get converted when I type it, they'd at least get converted on send. They don't.
  
  Please give me a way to opt out of this or drastically improve it. Thank you.

I was disheartened to hear that Slack is adamant they will not allow this to be disabled:

  Thank you for taking the time to write in and provide this feedback. I apologize for the disruption to your existing workflows. Our aim is to build an editor that works for all Slack users to better format their messages and clearly communicate in channels, regardless of their technical expertise. While we are taking all feedback on board, disabling the new formatting tool isn't an option that we will be offering.
  
  We are committed to doing what we can to improve the new experience for you, and will continue to make improvements to the new editor. Thank you for sharing these specific examples as we're carefully reviewing all feedback and passing it over to our product team.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by radlad » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

faceplanted wrote: post #22

benbristow wrote: post #9

I personally don't mind the new WYSIWYG. Doesn't get in the way much at all really. The only thing it's weird with I find is the code blocks, (previously 3 backticks, linebreak, code, linebreak, 3 backticks). Not a massive fan of how after 3 backticks it now puts an inline code format 'block', seems a bit weird.

The three backticks is what got me, I tend to paste blocks in and then put backticks around them, which is just broken now as it just inlines the first line and does nothing to the last line, I'll just disable it for now and set a reminder for sometime soon to see if they've fixed it

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by hattar » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:29 PM UTC

d4rky wrote: post #26

underwater wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if the people who complain about Electron apps will refrain from doing this out of principle.

well, they can use the browser version and have this snippet working without any extra steps

I don't understand the point of electron for applications whose functionality is entirely dependent on being online anyway. At that point, just use a browser as it's one fewer item to install. Is the Electron version of Slack capable of anything beyond the browser version?

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by strictnein » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:32 PM UTC

radlad wrote: post #34

I've been struggling with the new editor for the past week or so. I finally sent this feedback to Slack today: Hi there, when the WYSIWYG editor rolled out, I was pleased to see it could be disabled with the "Aa" button in the bottom right. I quickly realized it's not disabled, the toolbar is just hidden. Here are the problems I run into: 1. Typing ``` and then pasting and typing it again (force of habit from *every…

Really frustrating seeing them repeat the "disrupting your workflow" bit.

It's not a "workflow" app, it's a chat app.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by CraneWorm » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:33 PM UTC

d4rky wrote: post #20

You can do it in the desktop app as well. If you run it with SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true in env vars, it'll enable you to right click to Inspect Element, open devtools and run this code snippet there

I set the env variable but I can't seem to get the access to devtools?

Only regular menu appears on right-click.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by Jarwain » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:34 PM UTC

hattar wrote: post #36

d4rky wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, they can use the browser version and have this snippet working without any extra steps

I don't understand the point of electron for applications whose functionality is entirely dependent on being online anyway. At that point, just use a browser as it's one fewer item to install. Is the Electron version of Slack capable of anything beyond the browser version?

Some users prefer having a separate app with its own icon and window instead of another tab in a browser. It keeps things Separate

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Post by beatgammit » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 2:35 PM UTC

hattar wrote: post #36

d4rky wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, they can use the browser version and have this snippet working without any extra steps

I don't understand the point of electron for applications whose functionality is entirely dependent on being online anyway. At that point, just use a browser as it's one fewer item to install. Is the Electron version of Slack capable of anything beyond the browser version?

I think it can do screen sharing in calls, whereas the browser app can only do voice calls (and maybe video, I can't recall).