Zuckerberg’s Anti-China Rhetoric Roils Facebook's Chinese Employees

Post by bgee » Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #25

throwGuardian wrote: post #5

Puzzle me this - as an employee in the US, for a company paying well above market for your labor, with generous perks and the freedom to speak out against the employer (which is likely absent in China), the response of the Chinese workforce seems rather paradoxical - criticising an accommodating work environment, which, mind you, is only possible because of freedom of speech Or, the press is out to make a mountain of…

Who's to say those employee actions are not being scrutinized by others and reported back? As the US and China implement different tit for tat policies, relatives at home can be punished for the actions of relatives abroad.

Post by scarmig » Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:03 PM UTC

thorwasdfasdf wrote: post #17

scarmig wrote: post #13

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This might suit both anti- and pro-PRC propagandists, but it's not reflective of reality on the ground. Chinese people have plenty of self-conception, independent thoughts, and the ability to distinguish between themselves and their government and objectively judge government actions. At least, no less so than people anywhere.

Anyone who's ever lived in china for several years will tell you chinese nationalism is extremely intense. Even in america, if you have a conversation with a chinese person about the PRC or even just economic conditions in china, that person will in any case, always defend the PRC under any condition, no matter what the PRC has done, even if they themselves are against the PRC and agree with what your saying.

Post by bgee » Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:03 PM UTC

tossAfterUsing wrote: post #30

hangonhn wrote: post #20

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Come on. That's patently not true. Seriously. I'm born Chinese and my family is Chinese. We were never "trained". I'm highly critical of the Chinese government (though I left fairly young) as are some members of my family. Some of them were born and raised there. Come on. Stop it with the stereotypes. People are complicated and have multitudes. "People are tauhgt to think of themselves as completely the same as their…

> (though I left fairly young) how is it reasonable to take your anecdote as a decent reference point for somebody who has grown up in china, speaking mandarin, and learning about the world through CCP-funded public schooling?

Post by hangonhn » Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:06 PM UTC

tossAfterUsing wrote: post #30

hangonhn wrote: post #20

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Come on. That's patently not true. Seriously. I'm born Chinese and my family is Chinese. We were never "trained". I'm highly critical of the Chinese government (though I left fairly young) as are some members of my family. Some of them were born and raised there. Come on. Stop it with the stereotypes. People are complicated and have multitudes. "People are tauhgt to think of themselves as completely the same as their…

> (though I left fairly young) how is it reasonable to take your anecdote as a decent reference point for somebody who has grown up in china, speaking mandarin, and learning about the world through CCP-funded public schooling?

Post by taobility » Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:08 PM UTC

umvi wrote: post #7

Title should read: "Zuckerberg’s Anti-China Rhetoric Roils (Chinese) Facebook Employees" At any rate, I applaud Zuckerberg for actually having a spine when it comes to China, unlike Tim Cook.