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Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by mic47 »

miloshadzic wrote: post #14
edf13 wrote: post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

Integrity teams at FB are teams that handle abuse on the platform, and other bad things (fake accounts, spam, malicious developers, malicious ads, ...). Why integrity? Bunch of teams (not all) that did abuse had integrity in their name (like site integrity, platform integrity), so I guess that the name just sticks.

And what does VP of integrity do? Manages organization that handles abuse on the platform.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by DonHopkins »

miloshadzic wrote: post #14
edf13 wrote: post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

And the head of the Unity Division.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

#33

Post by Daniel_sk »

bigiain wrote: post #24
Daniel_sk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the developer can change the notification channel ID (which they use to group similar notifications and the user can disable a specific channel) and then you basically start with a channel without previous settings. You would have to disable all notifications for an app completely (not just a specific type) to prevent this for the future.

Or, you know, delete the demonstrated-untrustworthy app from your device...

I don't have it on my phone and I don't see a reason for a native app for facebook. The mobile website works good enough if I need to check something (sadly it's heavily used also by companies and newspapers in my country) and messenger works through https://mbasic.facebook.com/messages/

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

#34

Post by nealdt »

asenk wrote: post #3

Good time to remind that Facebook has previously intentionally bypassed permission dialogs to gather data without user permission: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5433555/Note-by-C...

Also nice reminder about that lovely photo of Zuck with a sticker covering up his webcam. Now why would he do something like that ... ?

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

#35

Post by have_faith »

nealdt wrote: post #34
asenk wrote: post #3

Good time to remind that Facebook has previously intentionally bypassed permission dialogs to gather data without user permission: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5433555/Note-by-C...

Also nice reminder about that lovely photo of Zuck with a sticker covering up his webcam. Now why would he do something like that ... ?

Because he's much more likely to be targeted than any of us for things like that?

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

#36

Post by baot »

Daniel_sk wrote: post #13
baot wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also noticed they've started resetting the notification settings I set through the Android settings menu for Messenger. I didn't know this was supposed to be possible.

I think the developer can change the notification channel ID (which they use to group similar notifications and the user can disable a specific channel) and then you basically start with a channel without previous settings. You would have to disable all notifications for an app completely (not just a specific type) to prevent this for the future.

That's actually what I ended up doing to 'fix' it. It's disappointing, yet not surprising, to learn it's intentional subversion of the API.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by villgax »

Same goes to WhatsApp if your camera preview is accessible on swiping to the left or whatever. They must be sending small snippets of video/audio/images periodically, its too tempting to not do so at that scale if you already have the permissions.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by goatinaboat »

have_faith wrote: post #35
nealdt wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also nice reminder about that lovely photo of Zuck with a sticker covering up his webcam. Now why would he do something like that ... ?

Because he's much more likely to be targeted than any of us for things like that?

In a building he owns, on a network he owns, defended by an army of network engineers he employs?

No, he’s not protecting himself from any external threat.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by miloshadzic »

mic47 wrote: post #31
miloshadzic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

Integrity teams at FB are teams that handle abuse on the platform, and other bad things (fake accounts, spam, malicious developers, malicious ads, ...). Why integrity? Bunch of teams (not all) that did abuse had integrity in their name (like site integrity, platform integrity), so I guess that the name just sticks. And what does VP of integrity do? Manages organization that handles abuse on the platform.

I guess VP of Abuse is just not a good look

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Post by mic47 »

goatinaboat wrote: post #38
have_faith wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because he's much more likely to be targeted than any of us for things like that?

In a building he owns, on a network he owns, defended by an army of network engineers he employs? No, he’s not protecting himself from any external threat.

Ever heard about 0days?
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