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Privacy: Is That iPhone?

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Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#31

Why does Apple have this as the default? Now they've mostly ditched their own advertising platforms, what do they have to gain from having these default settings?

Maybe to prevent really nasty dark patterns from emerging? It would break a /lot/ of companies, I’d think

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#32

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What are trying to protect against? A screenshot of a screenshot with a filter applied to it isn’t going to help you if your name shows up somewhere in it.

Tracking watermarks / pixels.

Genuine question: what is a tracking watermark, in the context you're discussing?

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#33

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Did you… print out a screenshot of your phone?!

I applied filters and took a screenshot of the screenshot to reduce image fidelity in case it contained any [covertly embedded]* identifying information [in the form of watermarks or hidden pixels] . *added for clarity.

That’s an impressive level of opsec, but I have to think it would be a huge story if Apple were adding printer-dot-style tracking watermarks to screenshots, and that someone would have found it by now.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#34
Anyone disillusioned by the thought that Apple values privacy would be well served by reading iOS, The Future Of macOS, Freedom, Security And Privacy In An Increasingly Hostile Global Environment - https://gist.github.com/iosecure/357e724811fe04167332ef54e73...

There is so much more to privacy than is made apparent to the user as a few OS knobs to "limit" ad tracking.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#35

The problem is that Apple has always claimed ios provides more privacy (& security) than android, but that's irrelevant if you don't make sure your users are capable of finding the settings. Apple has always marketed to people who are (at least perceived to be) largely tech illiterate (while claiming you have to be extremely tech savvy to use android which is a lie), so if they view their users that way they should m…

Android phones pump tons of location info and usage info direct to one of the biggest advertising companies in the world. On top of that, a fair number of Android phones ship with third party spyware and outright malware which cannot be uninstalled.

The iPhone is a lot better for privacy by default. It's just not as good as it should be, and I do agree it's not as good as their claims suggest.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#36

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Did you… print out a screenshot of your phone?!

I applied filters and took a screenshot of the screenshot to reduce image fidelity in case it contained any [covertly embedded]* identifying information [in the form of watermarks or hidden pixels] . *added for clarity.

In case people aren't aware, such a thing _is_ possible. Companies have used steganography techniques in the past to secretly embed identifiers into movies and other visual content. It's been used to track down the movie leakers, for example.

Another example; most printers covertly embed an identifier in their prints.

I have a vague memory of a pre-release video game doing it? Or maybe it was just debugging information that they were embedding. shrug

Personally I don't believe Apple is doing what you describe (though maybe they might do it to a prototype iPhone). But it's certainly your right to hold that belief and take measurements to protect yourself. Shame you're getting downvoted for explaining yourself.

EDIT: Fixed a typo; thank you.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#38

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Tracking watermarks / pixels.

Genuine question: what is a tracking watermark, in the context you're discussing?

Steganographically concealing information in images that allow people to track the source.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tracking watermarks / pixels.

Genuine question: what is a tracking watermark, in the context you're discussing?

Imagine that whenever you took a screenshot the text “TAKEN ON AUSTINJP’S IPHONE” were written across the page.

A “watermark” is simply a version of that designed to be invisible or imperceptible to the human eye, for example by embedding information in the least significant bits of the pixel colors.

“Digital Watermark Steganography” is a good search term for further investigation. As is the case with many security topics, there is an ongoing arms race between technology used to hide information, and technology used to detect information hiding.

At the end of the day if you truly wanted to share a screenshot of the iOS settings UI and remain anonymous, you should probably consider just drawing it with crayons. Except then someone will come along and process the crayon marks to recover your fingerprints etc. etc.

Re: Privacy: Is That iPhone?

#40
Mozilla suggests resetting the IDFA once per month...but that seems pretty trivial to workaround? If an app you used previously starts up and sees that your IDFA changed, it's easy for that app to know that the old IDFA and the new IDFA refer to the same user!

This tracking is all possible because iOS gives every app on the device the same IDFA (advertising identifier [1]). They can then correlate all your activity and target you for ads.

I'd love if Apple just killed this feature, but barring that, why not change iOS so that it scopes these identifiers at the per-app level. Different apps on the same device see different IDFAs, but an app can still use an IDFA to target you for ads. Apple already has similar per-vendor scoping with identifierForVendor. [2]

[1]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/adsupport/asidenti...

[2]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uidevice/162...

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