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Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

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Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

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Just listening to this talk scares me. The amount of errors - even in a seemingly normal, sunny day - is mind boggling to think people trust this crap. How can we rely on the output of eight cameras? This is not a kid's science project. It's all fancy neural networks until someone dies. Pretty callous and Silicon valley-mindset for such an important and critical function of the car. Will never buy a Tesla after havin…

> mind boggling to think people trust this crap

It's also mind boggling to think we currently trust organic tissue to do this crap, some of which is bathed in psychoactive chemicals.

And yet we do, and as a result, horrendous catastrophes occur every minute of every day.

> It's all fancy neural networks until someone dies

No, that can't be the standard, not when people are dying right now in the current regime.

Unless the new regime kills and maims at a higher rate than the current regime, there is no reason for fear.

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

#33

Just listening to this talk scares me. The amount of errors - even in a seemingly normal, sunny day - is mind boggling to think people trust this crap. How can we rely on the output of eight cameras? This is not a kid's science project. It's all fancy neural networks until someone dies. Pretty callous and Silicon valley-mindset for such an important and critical function of the car. Will never buy a Tesla after havin…

Hmm how do you explain that data shows that there are likely less accidents and less road fatalities when autopilot is engaged?

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

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post #33

Just listening to this talk scares me. The amount of errors - even in a seemingly normal, sunny day - is mind boggling to think people trust this crap. How can we rely on the output of eight cameras? This is not a kid's science project. It's all fancy neural networks until someone dies. Pretty callous and Silicon valley-mindset for such an important and critical function of the car. Will never buy a Tesla after havin…

Hmm how do you explain that data shows that there are likely less accidents and less road fatalities when autopilot is engaged?

citation, please

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

#35

His team is hiring; https://www.tesla.com/careers/job/software-engineerdeeplearn... https://www.tesla.com/careers/job/machine-learninginfrastruc... https://www.tesla.com/careers/job/machine-learningscientista...

lol i just did the interview and failed. had to find shortest path between tesla chargers. all in C++. completed it but failed

you were supposed to bore a tunnel directly between the two points

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

#36

Meanwhile Waymo is way ahead.

Do you belittle everyone that gets second place in the Olympics because the winner is "way ahead"?

Your comment just reeks of anger and hostility.

It seems like you'd rather Tesla didn't try at all, and instead we all just give up and go back to the status quo.

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

#37

Just listening to this talk scares me. The amount of errors - even in a seemingly normal, sunny day - is mind boggling to think people trust this crap. How can we rely on the output of eight cameras? This is not a kid's science project. It's all fancy neural networks until someone dies. Pretty callous and Silicon valley-mindset for such an important and critical function of the car. Will never buy a Tesla after havin…

this tech is interesting but so poorly understood that it's just using the (public) roads as one large alpha test. given a NN there is no way to verify what safety ranges are there. for instance if each camera slightly changed exposure or occlusion are the results smoothly changing? all they can do is try it and hope the inputs are in a safe part of their optimization space.

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm how do you explain that data shows that there are likely less accidents and less road fatalities when autopilot is engaged?

citation, please

https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol i just did the interview and failed. had to find shortest path between tesla chargers. all in C++. completed it but failed

you were supposed to bore a tunnel directly between the two points

jeez, trick question

Re: Andrej Karpathy talks about how Tesla's NNs are structured and trained [video]

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comments read like /r/RealTesla | TSLAQ fud. Please explain, in detail, what your specific objections are, and how you are more qualified on this subject matter than the presenter.

I am honestly scared even of WayMo that I think unless NHTSA gets its acts together this shit shouldn't be allowed on roads. It's often reactionary - people wait for someone to die and then suddenly you have nervous Musk in front of Congress and such crap. Why wait? Why can't these be regulated before allowing on roads? And no, failover control is not acceptable given the past incidents and deaths.

You seem to use "regulated" as in "forbidden" right now, but maybe I am misreading so can you elaborate?

Today thousands are dying every year on the road, are we just forbidding cars entirely?

> And no, failover control is not acceptable given the past incidents and deaths.

How many incidents/deaths per miles driven? How does it compare to all the other transportation systems?

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