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U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

YT has been known to remove selfrepair videos or demonization of said videos.

Does that sound like a political pressure thing or just the usual "company complaints / files bs reports and YT complies"? I'm not at all convinced there is any large scale love for YouTube as far as US policy goes.

I suppose my usage of the word 'political pressure' is nonspecific to US Government entities and more toward the general definition of a general entity's real politik. For example, i would consider a small business owner paying into a protection raquet by a local mafia to be 'caving to political pressure'

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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It was clear to me how threatened Facebook was by TikTok when I brought it up with an employee in June. They kept mentioning infinite scroll, and that everyone was supposed to be thinking about how to incorporate that into product. After zuck discussed TikTok directly recently, I’m not surprised google and fb lobbyists would press for this investigation. One question I have, is the real-time interests of millions of…

>One question I have, is the real-time interests of millions of 16-24 yo Americans reported back to the Chinese government a national security concern? Perhaps not, but the influence of a nebulous "algorithm" controlling what comes up next certainly can reinforce a message or way of life that line up with China's cultural norms

Iow, the presence of non-US cultures on a feed can harm US children?

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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post #32
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that sound like a political pressure thing or just the usual "company complaints / files bs reports and YT complies"? I'm not at all convinced there is any large scale love for YouTube as far as US policy goes.

I suppose my usage of the word 'political pressure' is nonspecific to US Government entities and more toward the general definition of a general entity's real politik. For example, i would consider a small business owner paying into a protection raquet by a local mafia to be 'caving to political pressure'

It's hard to know what the motivations are.

I really think YouTube like a lot of tech companies will often just take the path of least resistance and say:

"Well that's a lot of DCMA complaints ... just ban'm if our magic script says to, whatever."

It seems like maybe favoritism to another big company, but maybe is just more a reflection of a crappy process and a tech company habit of just letting some magic formula decide and avoiding any extra time / resource consuming process.

Not to say I don't think it doesn't happen as far as some corporate to corporate pressure goes, but it's hard to know.

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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TikTok is actually a great app. Content is very entertaining and it is actually easy to use. I still can't figure out Snapchat.

Today it is just a way for me to burn 15 minutes, but I see plenty of potential and make the concerns of censorship and ownership valid concerns.

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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I highly recommend folks listen to recent episodes of Ben Thompson’s exponent podcast where he discusses TikTok and its influence in the USA. He makes the point that US consumers become subject to Chinese censorship policies when using the platform while China outright bans or heavily restricts American companies from operating (eg google search, Facebook).

I tried to find it but failed. Do you happen to remember the date it aired?

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.

Despite the initial hype, Vine was super niche and stopped growing. After it was bought, it seems the new owners didn’t have the foresight or patience to evolve the product into something with more mainstream appeal.

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.

I'd venture to guess the vast majority don't know it's a Chinese social network
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