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The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

The Court already reconsidered the third-party doctrine in Carpenter v. United States last year and ruled that accessing extensive cell site location records without a warrant is a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

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In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

I hate getting political, but this is one of Andrew Yang's platform staples and is immediately relevant to your question. Look up his ideas about Data as a Right.

Statutory protection would be an improvement, but it would be far better to have this recognized at the Constitutional level, which Yang can't really do.

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I can't be the only one who gets depressed reading the news on here. Everyday it's another article about your private information being sucked up and sold for advertising or hacked and sold to be used for stealing your identity or other nefarious shit. Then there's the public side of gov't agencies monitoring everything in your life. At any point they can send an email to any tech company and get a full dump of your…

What's depressing as well is that it seems every major company or government has decided to reset passwords for every user for undisclosed or precautionary reasons.

I'm not talking some worthless accounts either - I'm talking major airlines, national postal services, government business accounts, etc.

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I recall a story about street performers in London demanding -- and getting -- copies of the videos of them doing their thing which were captured by CCTV. Just because something is performed in public doesn't make it legal to record it, and unless you sign a contract to the contrary, in the US you retain copyright to all original performances. So... if you posit that your life is an act of performance art can you sue…

There is precedent in the US that this could be fair use. > After considering the four factors in the aggregate, the court finds that the fair use doctrine does apply to the City of Radford Police Department's use of Shell's photographs and other works. As long as the use remains solely for the dual purposes of permitting City of Radford law enforcement officers to properly investigate allegedly criminal acts and to…

The key point is that it's part of an active and specific law enforcement investigation. This would NOT apply to full-spectrum, dragnet surveillance/copying of the performance art I call my life, especially when there's not even the suspicion of me being involved with anything more devious than questioning the existence of the GPL.

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I can't be the only one who gets depressed reading the news on here. Everyday it's another article about your private information being sucked up and sold for advertising or hacked and sold to be used for stealing your identity or other nefarious shit. Then there's the public side of gov't agencies monitoring everything in your life. At any point they can send an email to any tech company and get a full dump of your…

What's depressing as well is that it seems every major company or government has decided to reset passwords for every user for undisclosed or precautionary reasons. I'm not talking some worthless accounts either - I'm talking major airlines, national postal services, government business accounts, etc.

What are you referencing?

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We have all the ingredients for Minority Report. Recording devices in people's homes (alexa, siri, google). AI inference that can be trained to predict violent crimes based on data from these always on devices. Nation wide person tracking system, just using faces instead of eyeballs. Yes yes, the always on devices are only on when you activate them with a keyword. So what. Once MicroGoogleZon proves that they can "pr…

My girlfriend's cellphone displays ads pertaining to our conversations. No wake word needed when some app has managed to seize mic access.

Re: The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

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Re: The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

I hate getting political, but this is one of Andrew Yang's platform staples and is immediately relevant to your question. Look up his ideas about Data as a Right.

If it is to be political, I would rather target the legislative branch who can actually do something about this. It doesn't make sense to worry about the promises of a politician trying to get elected into the executive branch.
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