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Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by huhtenberg » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 4:21 PM UTC

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

It might make sense to keep upvote and downvote counters separate until either goes over a certain threshold and only then combine them.

That's to prevent deliberate sinking of freshly posted stories by a small, but coordinated effort.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by robg » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 4:23 PM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #28

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

It's worth a try. If story downvotes existed, stories like this might not even be upvoted... I suspect most of its upvotes reflect pent-up demand for downvotes on previous TC material.

I think it's just an anti-TC sensibility that's emerging with the recent focus on twitter's troubles. TC seemed necessary when it was promoting startup efforts. But technical critiques seems well-beyond its niche (and I'll admit a bit terrifying to someone developing an application).

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by adnam » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 4:24 PM UTC

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

I agree, and I wrote the damned thing.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by unalone » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 4:25 PM UTC

brlewis wrote: post #22

josefresco wrote: post #19

Alternatives to TechCrunch, choose one, be happy: CenterNetworks Mashable! VentureBeat Read/Write Web

Can anybody give reasons to favor one of those four above the others?

Mashable I would advise against. It's full of fluff articles, and sometime a year or two ago had the inexplicable idea of turning into a social network itself. It's a mess of a site and its writing is no better.

Though I don't follow many blogs anymore, period, R/WW writes fewer articles, but it tends to do a much better job with making sure the articles it DOES write are good. It's fairly high-quality.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by ivankirigin » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 4:52 PM UTC

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

Give editors downvotes. This is less powerful than marking something dead. I would also give the functionality to anyone in the top 1%.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by sealedidentity » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 5:05 PM UTC

well isn't it better to just ignore TC? I mean it's easy to critique something, where once we had insight all we have now is backchatter.

And seriously, this doesn't deserve to be on YC.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by davidw » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 5:24 PM UTC

fallentimes wrote: post #24

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

Yes. Please. A couple week trial period couldn't hurt. What's there to lose?

+1 to a trial period. Give it a month, collect some data, publish it, and see how things worked out.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by iigs » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 5:26 PM UTC

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

Hello. I'm a lurker but I registered to make this comment, because I feel pretty strongly about it.

I can understand that the tone of the article is one that you might not want to represent Hacker News, but I think the article subject is on point and worth considering.

I have been fortunate enough to live under a rock and not follow techcrunch at all, until I started reading HN (I'm a recent reddit lurker, and as reddit continues to become digg my clicks seem to be heading elsewhere). The TC articles I've seen in the last few weeks have all been phoned-in armchair architecture drivel and whining about del.icio.us's release schedule (seriously, who cares?)

I think the upmods to the article in question here are specific backlash against TC's quality falling faster than my west coast (USA) home's value. I'd be concerned that downmods would lead to moderation warring, and that would just bring this site one intellectual hop closer to reddit (and thereby digg).

I humbly suggest waiting for HN's traffic (using the metric of your choice) to increase 20% before reconsidering downmods. If HN develops a tradition of tuesday morning "your site sucks" rants then you absolutely have my support -- but please don't react to one or a small number of articles in what could be a very permanent and culture-shifting way.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by awt » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 5:31 PM UTC

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

I think down votes are still a bad idea. Just one more way to game the system.

Re: Alt.techcrunch.die.die.die

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Post by dcurtis » Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 5:56 PM UTC

iigs wrote: post #38

pg wrote: post #18

This is the top story on Hacker News? Embarrassing. Should I add downvotes on stories, for users over a certain karma threshold?

Hello. I'm a lurker but I registered to make this comment, because I feel pretty strongly about it. I can understand that the tone of the article is one that you might not want to represent Hacker News, but I think the article subject is on point and worth considering. I have been fortunate enough to live under a rock and not follow techcrunch at all, until I started reading HN (I'm a recent reddit lurker, and as red…

This isn't a small number of articles; it's a growing trend that started about four months ago.