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Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by ibero »

ubu7737 wrote: post #14
ibero wrote: post #5

This is a pretty fluff piece. There isn't really much explored here. The only interesting idea I can write out is that the author says that knowing the length/size of an article/book is intrinsically good. I do wonder if that is necessarily true. Maybe one can argue that knowing the length of a written word has resulted in less people engaging?

This is absolutely terrifying thinking. You seem to believe that readers are passive consumers of a stream, and should not have agency in their consumption of said streams.

You got me. Readers "should not have agency in their consumption of said streams." Clearly that was the point of my question posing the alternative. You nailed it.

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by coldtea »

quelltext wrote: post #21

For fuck's sake, if you need to be swearing (and I don't think it's necessary at all), just use the actual words.

We don't swear because it's necessary to convey the base information about something. We swear because it's useful to convey our feelings/emotional state/anger about it.

And of all things you could comment, not only is this not related to the topic of TFA at all, but it's also inconsequential, to the point of being some personal peculiarity... Who cares if he uses the "real" swear words or not?

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by thrower123 »

buboard wrote: post #3

Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…

Desktop software has never recovered from Office adopting the terrible Ribbon element instead of proper menus and toolbars.

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by ibero »

coldtea wrote: post #22
ibero wrote: post #5

This is a pretty fluff piece. There isn't really much explored here. The only interesting idea I can write out is that the author says that knowing the length/size of an article/book is intrinsically good. I do wonder if that is necessarily true. Maybe one can argue that knowing the length of a written word has resulted in less people engaging?

> This is a pretty fluff piece. There isn't really much explored here. It's not supposed to explore anything, be amusing, or whatever. It's just a rant about a certain specific UI trend. > The only interesting idea I can write out is that the author says that knowing the length/size of an article/book is intrinsically good That's not "the only interesting idea", in the sense that there were supposed to be more but ar…

For one, I remember a Google talk where they mentioned how the completion rate of e-books were higher than physical ones. One of the theories which stuck with me was that the reader not being aware of the end of the book could have been* a driver.

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by Random_Person »

buboard wrote: post #3

Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…

I spend a huge amount of time making sure that my users get to experience fully-functioning UI on desktop, while not being overly limited on mobile. It's a HUGE part of my workflow, but honestly it's the only way. I can't stand visiting an 'app' website on my desktop only to find that it's 600px wide because it IS the app.

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by city41 »

buboard wrote: post #3

Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…

I was pretty blown away to see that Dropbox's hamburger menu opens to take over the entire screen, including on desktop. In other words, they only considered mobile in their design. You can try it even if you don't have an account, just go to dropbox.com and click the hamburger in the upper right.

Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?

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Post by sp332 »

flyinghamster wrote: post #18
buboard wrote: post #3

Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…

Incessant hamburgerization is something that I also find annoying. Any time I have to set up Firefox, the very first thing I do is enable the menu bar. My desktop isn't a tablet - stop trying to make it one!

I can see why they did it. Now that screens are ~universally 16:9, vertical space is at a premium. It would be nice if the hamburger menu actually replicated the same functionality though.
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