Live data from Hacker News

We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

exactscan.com

31–40 of 454 posts

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#31
post #10

You still need to pay the $99 a year though, since you need an Apple Developer account to submit binaries to Apple for notarization (which is required to run them on Catalina.)

A paid Apple Developer account is not required to have binaries notarized.

Sadly it is required to have a paid account.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#32
post #15

A rebranded version of Steam would be interesting here. They support - automatic updates - build branches, included versions locked behind a code - DLC / Upgrades - coupons and bundling - cross platform publishing - selling of applications through third party channels Doesn't solve the 30% issue though. Also don't believe they support any recurring payment options.

Especially that they keep the 30% if someone refunds your app. If it would be 15% or less okay, but 30% and keep the proceeds? Seems to be sort of straddling the legality line.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#33
post #15

A rebranded version of Steam would be interesting here. They support - automatic updates - build branches, included versions locked behind a code - DLC / Upgrades - coupons and bundling - cross platform publishing - selling of applications through third party channels Doesn't solve the 30% issue though. Also don't believe they support any recurring payment options.

Especially that they keep the 30% if someone refunds your app. If it would be 15% or less okay, but 30% and keep the proceeds? Seems to be sort of straddling the legality line.

Apple Does not refund the fee? That's insane! On top of that I need to pay apple $100 per year to keep my app in the store. Even PayPal has been refunding the transaction fees (at least until recently).

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#36
post #7

Actually; now that I think about it, from a user perspective I also really dislike the App Store. I used to _love_ it, I would check weekly for new things, maybe there was some new shiny (often beautiful) program to do something really well. The experience was on the 'better than passable' side, nobodies favourite interface maybe, but certainly not terrible. But I actually avoid the App Store these days, both on MacO…

Nature has dark patterns if 2% chance of popularity is the threshold to qualify. Many other markets I see converge on a few huge players too, retail, food, hotels, software, banks, etc.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#37
post #35

> Apple takes 30% and that is not sustainable to run a company and pay salleries Yet plenty of other companies do business on this model. And where are they going to go? GNU/Linux? Good luck making a sustainable business selling desktop software there.

Leaving the AppStore doesn’t mean they can’t create MacOS applications. Most MacOS applications aren’t even installed via the AppStore.

Re: We are leaving the Apple App Store and all its problems

#40

You still need to pay the $99 a year though, since you need an Apple Developer account to submit binaries to Apple for notarization (which is required to run them on Catalina.)

You already needed a paid account to get your apps Developer ID signed in the first place.

If you're not using Developer ID and instead expecting your users to bypass Gatekeeper, that still works in Catalina.

Post reply on HN