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Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Brutal article. They're trying to conduct a violent purge/exile of homeless while dressing it up as caring about them. Give them houses wtf

This is not as much a housing issue as it is a mental health and substance abuse issue.

See https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless...

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true. In San Francisco, 35% of homeless residents in the last point-in-time count identified as female, and another six percent identified as another non-male gender.

Some would say 75% is the majority.

Few would say 65% is "Nearly all"

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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post #13

L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

Does one really need to be incentivized to stop living on the street? I would think the incentives are obvious. The problem is the means.

This is not always the case. Some of these people cannot function in regular society and actually find living on the streets to be easier.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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The article says 1,000 - 2,000 homeless in Boise, but at 2,000, a little quick MATH shows that Boise's homelessness rate may be a tad higher than LA's:

Boise: 2,000 homeless in population of 227,000 = 1:113

LA: 36,000 homeless in population of 4,000,000 = 1:111

Given the difference in annual weather, it's not clear that Boise policy is effective in reducing homelessness.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

#35

The broader issue is why a federal court is interfering with municipal policies.

Because in a constitutional form of government there are lots of things that cities are not allowed to do, and judicial relief from those unconstitutional, or otherwise illegal actions is expected and by design.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

#37

L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution. If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

Maybe.... give them a place to stay... OFF the street? Of course all urban centers are so starved of entry level housing that anything good enough to minimally get a homeless person off the street (bathroom, place to sleep, maybe kitchenette) would also be swamped by everyone from the poor and working, college students, immigrants, etc. Suppressing this housing is all done in the name of maintaining and increasing ho…

> Of course all urban centers are so starved of entry level housing that anything good enough to minimally get a homeless person off the street (bathroom, place to sleep, maybe kitchenette) would also be swamped by everyone from the poor and working, college students, immigrants, etc.

I doubt it; one of the reasons that homelessness is a difficult problem is that some homeless people are very unpleasant to live with, which means other homeless people prefer to remain on the street rather than share housing with them.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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One thing that I have never understood about this discussion is why it always seems to avoid the following question: What about people who want to be homeless? Why have we built a society in which anybody who doesn't accept the lifestyle of sleeping in a static, hardened structure, and working to pay rent or a mortgage so as to have the right to do so, is diagnosed with some kind of illness? Isn't it quite clear that…

Because people like you are incredibly uncommon. I do not believe at all that there are millions of people like that in the US.
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