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Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

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post #4

"The Nest Wifi point also has a speaker with the Google Assistant" Ahh. I see.

What are you suggesting exactly? Presumably the buyers are happy to have a product with the described features, which include "Google Assistant", which answers to your voice.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#33
post #2

> You can get a two pack with one router and one point for $269 No mention of whether it supports 802.11ax. Why are WiFi devices lagging in speed advancements so much? I ended up purchasing a second hand AirPort Extreme because it’s still one of the best performing 802.11ac devices (in my anecdotal experiences of running a lot of clients)... and it’s OLD!

My experience with the AirPort Extreme has been terrible to say the least. Over the years I have gone through 4 of them due to some poor design with the hardware. Usually is was the fan failing which caused a massive slowdown to the point where it's not usable. I took it into the Apple Store, they couldn't find the problem, I made a big stink and they gave me a new one. That one survived for another 6 months and failed in the same way.

I switched to Ubiquiti and won't look back. It's cheaper, enterprise grade hardware. If you know anything about networking, setting up the environment isn't that big of a deal, but is definitely a deterrent for some.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#34

How is this different than the already existing Wifi Mesh devices?

I also wondered about that. From the blog post:

* "making it even better"

* "includes the Google Assistant" (I guess this means its Google Wifi + Google Home combined?)

* "Nest Wifi is more powerful than Google Wifi, delivering up to two times the speed and up to 25 percent better coverage."

I'm a bit wondering why it has the "Nest" name tag.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#35
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the more worrying aspect is that they probably deprecate it in a few years and you don't get any firmware updates any more.

Every single router vendor does this. It is an issue, but it is not a google issue.

I had an ASUS N66U for over five years. It was released in 2011 [0] and I got rid of it last year for a mesh system. But looking at Asus’ support page, it still gets firmware updates [1] with the most recent in June.

Most reputable vendors put out firmware updates for a long time. Routers should not be disposable consumer devices, I think.

I have this belief both from a security standpoint (frequent updates are important) but also as someone who supports quite a few family members. Switching out routers over the phone is not easy for an 80 year old.

[0] https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-N66U

[1] https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTN66U/HelpDesk_BIOS/

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#36
I detest the fact that Google bought Nest. Now I have the pleasure of logging into a convoluted Google UX instead of the familiar Nest UX.

And here we have another intrusion of Google into our home. It's clear Google has no respect for anyone's privacy and is now a part of the problem.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#37
I don’t think I’d ever add a box to my home network that sniffed all traffic and sent it to Google, even if they paid me. Even if it had the functions of a Star Trek replicator.

I’m worried enough now that my Nest is doing bad things, but I can set that up on its own network that only it has access to. Giving Google such access to my home network is scary.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#38
post #2

> You can get a two pack with one router and one point for $269 No mention of whether it supports 802.11ax. Why are WiFi devices lagging in speed advancements so much? I ended up purchasing a second hand AirPort Extreme because it’s still one of the best performing 802.11ac devices (in my anecdotal experiences of running a lot of clients)... and it’s OLD!

True. I need mesh WiFi for my home because it's very long, and I have been waiting for like two years for mesh devices with 802.11ax to come out, as I want the best possible speed and coverage and don't want to spend hundreds of euros in devices that will be obsolete in a few years. And at the moment, nothing seems to have been released, just announcements for the future...

At the end I may run out of patience and just look for something second hand.

Re: Google Announces Nest WiFi

#39
Anyone know why they changed it so that you now need a router + repeater, rather than every point being a router and repeater like Google Wifi was? That was much simpler - all units interchangeable. Cost reduction maybe?
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