Her iPhone died. It led to her being charged as a criminal

Post by beerandt » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:58 PM UTC

nabdab wrote: post #28

dv_dt wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it ridiculous that the payment was accepted if the requirement was that the source of payment needed to be registered and that somehow, if you had the app or phone on you, that is valid without registration of the source, but if later you're trying to avoid a fine that payment isn't valid without registration.

Think of it this way. If you buy a ticket you can show the ticket and it’s valid even though you never provide proof of identity, and the person checking is just verifying that the human entity in front of them have a piece of cardboard. No problem there. Buying a ticket with Apple pay just puts the “cardboard ticket” in your phone. Now you could also buy a monthly travel card, and register it to your identity, which…

Well, that depends on if the coat brand marketed itself as a way to manage all your tickets, payments, and receipts.

Post by dv_dt » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 4:35 PM UTC

nabdab wrote: post #28

dv_dt wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it ridiculous that the payment was accepted if the requirement was that the source of payment needed to be registered and that somehow, if you had the app or phone on you, that is valid without registration of the source, but if later you're trying to avoid a fine that payment isn't valid without registration.

Think of it this way. If you buy a ticket you can show the ticket and it’s valid even though you never provide proof of identity, and the person checking is just verifying that the human entity in front of them have a piece of cardboard. No problem there. Buying a ticket with Apple pay just puts the “cardboard ticket” in your phone. Now you could also buy a monthly travel card, and register it to your identity, which…

Except for the fact it wasn't a paper ticket, it was an electronic ticket which likely has all sorts of records and metadata connected to it as well as being verifiable via a server - which would be needed anyway otherwise they have likely a huge electronically generated counterfeit or an accounting problem.

I'm guessing if the police wanted to check an alibi of an individual claiming to have taken the train at some point that the records of that electronic ticket would be dug up.

Re: Her iPhone died. It led to her being charged as a criminal

Re: Her iPhone died. It led to her being charged as a criminal