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Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I there a plugin to spoof the UA for certain sites only? Edit: it doesn't work.

This should do the trick: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-st...

That's what I tried to use but did not work at first. It works if you use block list mode and list .skype.com and .live.com.

Heh. It's the same old web app from the works-in-firefox days.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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post #23

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I there a plugin to spoof the UA for certain sites only? Edit: it doesn't work.

I use this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/uaswitcher/ , you can override per website or globally.

Thanx, this one works.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Skype web doesn't work on Firefox and am still not able to fathom why

They just block it by user agent, if you spoof it, everything is working well.

haha thanks. Didn't even think about this for some reason, yet it's so simple.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It seems like drag-and-drop is out of fashion. I think big reason is that it really cannot be done well on touch-screen devices and touchpads. I don't really complain, because I have always found d&d rather impractical (and it's also terrible for accessibility); unfortunately, there are some applications that still rely on it a lot. (As an aside, what bothers me more that the right-click menu goes out of fashion. Tha…

A customer of mine uses Kanbanize to organize software development. Think Trello on steroids. I imagine that instead of dragging cards to their destination we could open a menu and select the destination column. Maybe that would be even faster sometimes. However reordering cards inside a column without drag and drop would be a pain: Move Up, Move Down buttons, no thanks.

I don't disagree, this is a great example. I think d&d can work in special cases where the distance for the item to travel is not too small (so that you wouldn't move things by accident), but it is also not uncomfortably far away so that you don't see the target and have to navigate to it while you're d&d-ing. I guess these limiting factors are what makes it tricky to get right.

But what about selecting a card and being able to move it around with the keyboard?

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It seems like drag-and-drop is out of fashion. I think big reason is that it really cannot be done well on touch-screen devices and touchpads. I don't really complain, because I have always found d&d rather impractical (and it's also terrible for accessibility); unfortunately, there are some applications that still rely on it a lot. (As an aside, what bothers me more that the right-click menu goes out of fashion. Tha…

How to move cards on a Kanban (say Trello) without drag and drop?

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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post #35
post #26

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A customer of mine uses Kanbanize to organize software development. Think Trello on steroids. I imagine that instead of dragging cards to their destination we could open a menu and select the destination column. Maybe that would be even faster sometimes. However reordering cards inside a column without drag and drop would be a pain: Move Up, Move Down buttons, no thanks.

I don't disagree, this is a great example. I think d&d can work in special cases where the distance for the item to travel is not too small (so that you wouldn't move things by accident), but it is also not uncomfortably far away so that you don't see the target and have to navigate to it while you're d&d-ing. I guess these limiting factors are what makes it tricky to get right. But what about selecting a card and be…

Less ergonomic and most people don't use the keyboard anyway.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on. I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an…

> if an issue doesn't affect Google, it will likely be deprioritized a lot.

And in Firefox ? someone still needs to prioritize issues, and issues affecting more people will get more attention in both browsers.

As an immigrant struggling with a new language personally I need Chrome's right click to translate a page functionality in Firefox before I'll fully move

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on. I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an…

> I'd still humbly suggest everyone to give Firefox a try.

I just can't get past the font weight rendering and the scroll bars. Is there any way to make them not look terrible?

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I don't disagree, this is a great example. I think d&d can work in special cases where the distance for the item to travel is not too small (so that you wouldn't move things by accident), but it is also not uncomfortably far away so that you don't see the target and have to navigate to it while you're d&d-ing. I guess these limiting factors are what makes it tricky to get right. But what about selecting a card and be…

Less ergonomic and most people don't use the keyboard anyway.

We know very well that well-designed keyboard UI can run circles around mouse-based one in a typical application. If you're a user of a "Kanban board", you're not some aunt with a phone, you are most likely in the office and you can learn to use the keyboard productively in the productivity app you use every day.
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