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Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by arthurcolle » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:14 PM UTC

not_real_acct wrote: post #29

yters wrote: post #25

If someone has such super technology, why patent it so people can easily steal the idea with a google search? Why not keep it secret and use it to fuel a giddy ride to the top of the power hierarchy?

Exopolitics wrote the following, which I agree with: "Given what we know about secret space programs developed by the US Navy and Air Force respectively, electromagnetic propulsion systems have been used for decades in several crafts that operate both in space and underwater. The reason why Dr. Pais chose not to mark the patent applications secret was that senior Navy officials have decided the time had come for the…

What secret space programs?

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:14 PM UTC

rolph wrote: post #16

goodcanadian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thermonuclear weapons have existed longer than I have been alive. It would appear that the first one was tested in 1952: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon#History

spacetime can be warped out of a normal geodesic and provide propulsion or other energetic beaming. approximately 2 milligrams of mass in a plank volume will produce singularity, but a singularity weapon is not the goal, its the directed warping of spacetime that is being sought out for now.

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Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

rolph wrote: post #16

goodcanadian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thermonuclear weapons have existed longer than I have been alive. It would appear that the first one was tested in 1952: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon#History

spacetime can be warped out of a normal geodesic and provide propulsion or other energetic beaming. approximately 2 milligrams of mass in a plank volume will produce singularity, but a singularity weapon is not the goal, its the directed warping of spacetime that is being sought out for now.

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Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by starpilot » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:18 PM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #8

Check out this dude's patents: https://patents.google.com/?inventor=salvatore+pais&oq=salva... Laser augmented turbojet propulsion system Craft Using an Inertial Mass Reduction Device Electromagnetic field generator and method to generate an electromagnetic field Plasma Compression Fusion Device High frequency gravitational wave generator Piezoelectricity-induced Room Temperature Superconductor

We need some crazy tech billionaire to fund development for a POC of one of these patents.

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by rripken » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:22 PM UTC

conjectures wrote: post #18

Love the idea that if an opposing power developed force fields + compact fusion reactors, that the last line of defence would be patent law.

I would read that if it was a novel. Picturing legal thriller blended with scifi. Maybe some military/political drama thrown in. Grisham/Clancy/Crichton

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by starpilot » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:24 PM UTC

gfodor wrote: post #7

Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ

This was a really good podcast if you've been following this stuff, and cleared up many of the inquiries posted on HN. Some key points:

- The object had been tracked for 2 weeks by radars: SPY-1 (ship) and E-2 (AWACS aircraft)

- Pilot made naked-eye visual contact with the tic tac from above, watching it move over the water

- There was a cross-shaped wake under it

- It jammed their radar when they attempted a lock, which is why they switched to passive tracking (IR)

- Visual estimate of the speed puts it at faster than mach 3 (SR-71), with instantaneous acceleration

On the show, the pilot pointed out the white "aura" around object in the IR video feed. Since it was set to black-hot, this would mean the nearby air was for some reason colder than the ambient air. He said this was also visible to naked eye as a "bubble." Anyone know of any propulsion that would be associated with a temperature drop to the vehicle surface, along with optical distortion?

Edit: There's a good chance the "aura" is an image processing artifact: https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-en...

Also since it was black, its surface was hot, not cold.

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by runjake » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:24 PM UTC

not_real_acct wrote: post #17

gfodor wrote: post #7

Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ

> Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing. On Rogan's forum, I posted an explanation of how these Navy "UFOs" work. I've included a history of their progress and citations: https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

I'm not going to refute your post, as I can't think of anything more plausible.

But, I will mention that flying a Navy aircraft dangerously close to other military aircraft -- especially between aircraft in formation is aside from being highly-dangerous, is highly-frowned upon, and highly unprofessional.

I don't see US military flight crews taking this risk, even if they are piloting "black" aircraft. I don't see this scenario happening (without an accompanying court martial).

Citation: Served in military in this area. FWIW, I have no better idea of what's going on than the rest of you, other than:

1. The possibility it's a government-manufactured hoax in order to misinform somebody for some reason, or...

2. A multi-spectral (visual/IR/radar) spoofing of some sort, which would mean the US could test things on live crews without actual danger to the crews.

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by LoveDeathRobots » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:27 PM UTC

not_real_acct wrote: post #17

gfodor wrote: post #7

Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ

> Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing. On Rogan's forum, I posted an explanation of how these Navy "UFOs" work. I've included a history of their progress and citations: https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

> The US Navy has made it abundantly clear that they have this technology .. When motionless, the craft point their gravitational waveguides DOWN, which causes them to hover.

OK then, tell us why they allowed two shuttles to explode rather than use this gravitational waveguide technology?

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by RandallBrown » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:28 PM UTC

conjectures wrote: post #18

Love the idea that if an opposing power developed force fields + compact fusion reactors, that the last line of defence would be patent law.

There's a book called Year Zero, by Rob Reid about our first contact with aliens.

It turns out that humans are the only species in the universe capable of creating good music and as soon as other races detected our radio waves, they started listening to and reproducing our music.

Eventually, the radio waves with our licensing information reach them and every alien race realizes they've been committing copyright infringement on an absolutely massive scale.

Chaos and hijinks ensue.

Re: Scientist Behind Navy's “UFO Patents” Filed One for a Compact Fusion Reactor

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Post by LoveDeathRobots » Wed, Oct 09, 2019, 10:29 PM UTC

yters wrote: post #25

If someone has such super technology, why patent it so people can easily steal the idea with a google search? Why not keep it secret and use it to fuel a giddy ride to the top of the power hierarchy?

> If someone has such super technology, why patent it so people can easily steal the idea with a google search? Why not keep it secret and use it to fuel a giddy ride to the top of the power hierarchy?

UFOlogy is a form of religious cult?