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Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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Anyone know if a shit storm is also on the chinese side?

I doubt that a Chinese citizen is willing to risk imprisonment or a dent in their social credit score for this.

There could be a shitstorm of the other side, i.e. "how could blizzard have streamer defend the rioter in Hong Kong, this is an outrage!" I guess this kind of complaints would improve the citizen social credit

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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If that's real, that's a surprisingly bad PR move from Blizzard. I understand this was targeted at a Chinese audience (since Weibo) but they must have known this would get back to their English speaking audience almost immediately. There has to be a better balance then "We will always respect and defend the pride of our country" (even if that is a slight mistranslation).

Most Americans will see this message as intentionally trolling the US and Hong Kong. Politicians are already angry about this regardless of political party. Honestly it is one of the worst responses possible. It has to be a mistake.

No, this is how it works in China. When Tencent has seats the board, it's how it works in the US, too.

What Tencent has never seen before, and what all Chinese companies need a wake-up call to, is punishment for bending over backward to a dickbag government.

US companies are used to weighing what the government wants and what its consumers want and finding a decent footing (to maximally benefit shareholders). Chinese companies just do whatever the party wants. It's bad for everyone except the CCP.

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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If that's real, that's a surprisingly bad PR move from Blizzard. I understand this was targeted at a Chinese audience (since Weibo) but they must have known this would get back to their English speaking audience almost immediately. There has to be a better balance then "We will always respect and defend the pride of our country" (even if that is a slight mistranslation).

Indeed - did Blizzard staff post this willingly or was this posted on Blizzard's Weibo account via Weibo staff or even someone else who followed an order? They certainly want to make the Blizzard game fans fall in line thinking Blizzard is aligning with China's tyrants' orders.

Is there any recorded instance of Weibo stuff forcefully posting on behalf of an account?

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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NBA did the same thing. Their Chinese statement was way more apologetic than the English one. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/07/nba-chin...

While the NBA's Chinese statement denounces what was said, it also affirms their commitment to freedom of speech. The NBA stance and the Blizzard stance are very different. Blizzard seems to show zero backbone and zero support for free speech.

There are a lot of pandering people in the games industry. Take riot games for example with the recent fiasco they've been involved with.

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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If that's real, that's a surprisingly bad PR move from Blizzard. I understand this was targeted at a Chinese audience (since Weibo) but they must have known this would get back to their English speaking audience almost immediately. There has to be a better balance then "We will always respect and defend the pride of our country" (even if that is a slight mistranslation).

There is a good chance it was not authorized by HQ and might be some China-specific PR division acting autonomously. I have a feeling blizzard just wants this problem to go away, otherwise people are going to turn blizzcon 2019 into a shitshow

It's actually quite impressive how they have managed to be on an even worse PR trajectory than the out-of-season april fool's joke of last blizzcon

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> There has to be a better balance then "We will always respect and defend the pride of our country" (even if that is a slight mistranslation). I'd translate it as: "We will continue to uphold respect towards countries." There's no "pride" or "our" in the original.

I've heard multiple people explain that this is standard phrasing in Chinese to refer to China the country, and not "countries in general."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There has to be a better balance then "We will always respect and defend the pride of our country" (even if that is a slight mistranslation). I'd translate it as: "We will continue to uphold respect towards countries." There's no "pride" or "our" in the original.

I've heard multiple people explain that this is standard phrasing in Chinese to refer to China the country, and not "countries in general."

"Our country" would be "我国". They used "国家", which is the term used for one or multiple countries in general. They could have meant just one country, but it's not what I believe to be the most likely interpretation.

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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When I did customer service at Blizzard Europe back around 2010 one of my immediate colleagues who could speak Chinese and English was involved in the re-launch of WoW in China.

They explained that non-Chinese companies were not allowed to operate in China. What Blizzard had done was essentially a partnership, but legally they gave rights to a Chinese company to operate/use their IP in China.

I suspect this is the same here, this is a Chinese company with a right from Blizzard to use their IP, but isn’t actually Blizzard itself.

Blizzard probably can’t control what this Chinese company does in China except probably for terminating their license to use their Hearthstone IP, and even then I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s legally challenging.

Re: Blizzard's Weibo Account Just Posted an Apology To China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Americans will see this message as intentionally trolling the US and Hong Kong. Politicians are already angry about this regardless of political party. Honestly it is one of the worst responses possible. It has to be a mistake.

No, this is how it works in China. When Tencent has seats the board, it's how it works in the US, too. What Tencent has never seen before, and what all Chinese companies need a wake-up call to, is punishment for bending over backward to a dickbag government. US companies are used to weighing what the government wants and what its consumers want and finding a decent footing (to maximally benefit shareholders). Chinese…

It remains to be seen how much Blizzard will actually suffer for this. How many people will cancel their WoW subscriptions? How many will boycott their next big game. I have doubts that it will be a larger impact than the profits they've made in their ventures in China.
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