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Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Title is clickbaity. They did it for a political protest during an official Blizzard tournament stream, not for actions on his own stream or something. He put on a gas mask and called for liberation of HK. I'm with him, but I definitely see why Blizzard has the rule in place, and it would not be right to overlook this - they would then have to be OK with others doing other protests. Blizzard should not pick a side.

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Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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"Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD [...]" That's pretty close to "Blizzard can remove you from Grandmasters as soon as you open your mouth". Sad to see such a cowardice from corporations, alth…

Isn't this basically the same with all big corporations these days? If you say unpopular things on your YouTube channel, you will be demonitized.as a way of punishment. In short, either you please big brother, or you will suffer.

Yes, it is. I've heard many examples of youtube channels with mildly conservative political opinions getting ranked far lower than the youtube algorithm should rank them. Since youtube isn't transparent with its creators we have to speculate for ourselves. A lot of evidence points towards censorship.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Not picking a side is not allowing political discussion, no matter who you (or they) perceive to be right. Coincidentally, this is also the choice that makes most sense to a corporation which stands to lose a lot from picking a side. Players will likely respond to sensationalist reporting of this case, but forget about it soon after, while the Chinese government is not gonna go easy on Blizzard picking the other side…

But nearly every large company in America engages in political discussion when they talk about diversity, feminism, and inclusion. I think that's a good thing, but it's clearly not the case that these companies shy away from making progressive statements.

All they are doing is saying things which a certain audience wants to hear. Nobody really cares about inclusion or diversity. They just claim to do so, because in this day and age, they will benefit from doing so.

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During nazi Germany, the corporation indeed did not pick a side (ala, IBM's equipment was used to do data processing for the holocaust). But, it's too far to say that they (IBM) was pro-holocaust.

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Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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At this point, Blizz must be hoping that the bad publicity is better than their current no publicity. Hearthstone is the #14 title on Twitch as I type this out and prominent players have noted how much less viewership the tournaments consistently get.

Also Tencent owns a portion of Activision Blizzard. That would be my guess for who is pulling the strings behind this specific incident.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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The fact they went so hard on this (and will no longer work with the two casters who tried to hide / not be associated) is part of what's particularly so insulting, and egregious.

They are implicitly making an example of this, thereby sending a political message.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not picking a side is not allowing political discussion, no matter who you (or they) perceive to be right. Coincidentally, this is also the choice that makes most sense to a corporation which stands to lose a lot from picking a side. Players will likely respond to sensationalist reporting of this case, but forget about it soon after, while the Chinese government is not gonna go easy on Blizzard picking the other side…

But nearly every large company in America engages in political discussion when they talk about diversity, feminism, and inclusion. I think that's a good thing, but it's clearly not the case that these companies shy away from making progressive statements.

That player has forced blizzard to appear as though they endorsed the protesters.

Being protesters for freedom, they ironically did not respect another (unrelated) entity's freedom to choose.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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"Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD [...]" That's pretty close to "Blizzard can remove you from Grandmasters as soon as you open your mouth". Sad to see such a cowardice from corporations, alth…

Isn't this basically the same with all big corporations these days? If you say unpopular things on your YouTube channel, you will be demonitized.as a way of punishment. In short, either you please big brother, or you will suffer.

Is it a "big corporations" thing? Try saying e.g. that maybe Minsky was innocent, see how that works.

OTOH who knows anymore, maybe big corporations do have something to do with it.... it's certainly convenient. If you have money it's rather easy to summon a mob to do your bidding and silence inconvenient people, so they must love this new trend. Also if you have money and power, it's easy to get discretionary, arbitrarily-enforced rules to not apply to you. All these new trends are so much more convenient than the old "due process" thing....

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Which is exactly how sports leagues operate, be they FIFA, the Olympic Committee, the NFL, the NBA... If you expect them to be the high water mark of social justice, you're going to be deeply disappointed. (Meanwhile, various tech firms have been criticized for picking a side, or allegedly picking a side in social conflicts over the past few years... Damned if you do, damned if you don't, apparently.)

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I think to an American organization, it's far more relevant to resist fascism, bigotry, and violation of the rights of in America, then to worry about how China administers Hong Kong.

But, ah, that former would be 'political', and 'picking a side', and 'controversial', because you see, ~half the country thinks (rightly or wrongly) that those things aren't a serious problem.

I leave considering what ~half of mainland China thinks (rightly or wrongly) about Hong Kong, and what we should do about widely held, but unjust political opinions as an exercise to the reader.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

During nazi Germany, the corporation indeed did not pick a side (ala, IBM's equipment was used to do data processing for the holocaust). But, it's too far to say that they (IBM) was pro-holocaust.

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Pro-making money is not pro-holocaust.
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