The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong • Hacker News Board

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by aww_dang » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:13 AM UTC

ionforce wrote: post #11

reaperducer wrote: post #3

China is offended by him offering an opinion on something. So, that makes them right? I'm offended by his backpedaling. That makes me right, right? China really needs to get a grip and understand that with seven billion people in the world, not everyone is going to agree with everything it wants.

You're not a global power.

"The Pope! How many divisions has he got?" --Stalin

Today the Vatican is still a state. The Catholic church remains influential. The USSR has fallen and the Soviet system has been discredited.

The above article would not have been written if the CCP's objections were an effective way to silence western critics. It would not be unreasonable to expect a truly powerful entity to be unconcerned with criticisms from a basketball team's GM.

History will tell all.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by hw » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:13 AM UTC

khc wrote: post #10

reaperducer wrote: post #3

China is offended by him offering an opinion on something. So, that makes them right? I'm offended by his backpedaling. That makes me right, right? China really needs to get a grip and understand that with seven billion people in the world, not everyone is going to agree with everything it wants.

This is more representing the power of social media mob justice than what "China" wants. It's really not that different from how the left or the right boycott a business after any other tweet

Not to mention the people in China are pretty nationalistic and are on the side of the government when it comes to the situation in HK, so the response from the people in China and the CBA is not surprising.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by chinalover1231 » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:14 AM UTC

diego wrote: post #9

So many misunderstandings around this. For one, in the US we have free speech. That means that you can say anything you want, but you have to accept that you may lose customers for saying it. It doesn't matter if you believe that your customers shouldn't be pissed off. It's the Chinese in this case, but it could be any other relevant group. Second, perhaps because most Americans haven't been to China and cannot read…

Its seem common for China shills on HN to use words like "misunderstand" and "misinform" and then continue to go into a random blabbing of opinion.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:14 AM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #19

What does fighting for freedom and standing with Hong Kong have to do with promoting sport? Why not just shut the fuck to and promote sport? This is how we know some (many?) successful people just got lucky with the birth lottery and generally being in the right places and knowing the right people.

It doesn't have anything to do with promoting sport, which is why the guy tweeted on his personal account.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by robdachshund » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:15 AM UTC

diego wrote: post #9

So many misunderstandings around this. For one, in the US we have free speech. That means that you can say anything you want, but you have to accept that you may lose customers for saying it. It doesn't matter if you believe that your customers shouldn't be pissed off. It's the Chinese in this case, but it could be any other relevant group. Second, perhaps because most Americans haven't been to China and cannot read…

Moral relativism is bullshit buddy

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:18 AM UTC

abhigupta wrote: post #5

"If you want to know who rules over you look at who you are not allowed to criticize"

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Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by mieses » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:19 AM UTC

abhigupta wrote: post #5

"If you want to know who rules over you look at who you are not allowed to criticize"

The quote is a truism but what is the source? Google brings up a very limited, maybe filtered, list of results. Orwell, Voltaire, a white supremacist? I don't really care which. Just curious about the historical origin.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by i_am_nomad » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:19 AM UTC

abhigupta wrote: post #5

"If you want to know who rules over you look at who you are not allowed to criticize"

Just as a heads up, this statement is often used as an anti-Semitic canard. You obviously didn’t mean it in that context, but you may want to use that quotation with caution.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by mieses » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:23 AM UTC

magicsmoke wrote: post #23

abhigupta wrote: post #5

"If you want to know who rules over you look at who you are not allowed to criticize"

You can criticize China, but then you lose their dollars. So in the end, the thing that rules over you is actually money.

China's economic tactic is to convert their manipulated currency into dollars. China is desperate for dollars. No one trades in or trusts RMB.

Re: The NBA Feels a Backlash in China After a Tweet Supporting Hong Kong

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Post by boomboomsubban » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 4:23 AM UTC

I don't understand many people's view of the Chinese. This is not the state of China ordering the NBA around, this is an action by their people.

And though it is likely that China helped make the people aware of this event, nationist individuals using blatant propaganda to attack people on Twitter is not a problem unique to China.