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Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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> On the helicopter, there’s a little bolt on top, and if you unscrew that, you take the cotter pin out, we all die.” I imagine that's hard to do while in operation. Meanwhile, a heli has autorotation, which is quite convenient in various failure modes.

Your quote refers to the "jesus nut": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut, which doesn't apply to newer helicopters.

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is precedence for a fixed-wing rotor-based VTOL aircraft with the Osprey, at least aerodynamically. Operationally, the Osprey was a bit of a disaster. But I agree that flight (and ESPECIALLY manned flight) needs extensive experience in aerospace engineering.

Osprey is more of a true biaxial helicopter first, and a convertoplane second. V22 have 2 lateral DOF in which it can move without moving COM relative to point of aerodynamic force, and without changing its aerodynamic cross-section, so you don't get positive feedback to change of orientation in wind gusts. This thing cannot do that as far as a glancing look can tell. I am not an aeronautic engineer, just a motoglide…

I checked on LinkedIn, the company has guys with PhD's in aerospace engineering working for them. Do you want to inform of this shortcoming?

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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The wing design reminded me of this Real Engineering video on the pros and cons of backward swept wings, including a look at the Grumman X-29:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN6vGxyMcVU

This definitely isn't shooting for mach 1.8, so the X-29 isn't an analogue, but there are interesting points about aerodynamics in that video nonetheless.

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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[I've been an engineer working on this vehicle for the past 2 years.] Hi HN! It's great to see lots of interest. One big reason we went public with the project is to help with recruiting, as we're starting to scale up our hiring for lots of positions, including testing, manufacturing, and every sort of engineering that you can think of. The team is super strong technically, and is full of people with interesting back…

Love what you're doing and hope it's a success! That being said, how do you answer skeptics with questions similar to "What makes you believe your version will be different from the myriad of vaporware or lab-demo-only competitors?"

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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Every time I see a multirotor carrying people, I think of the many times while building them at the beginning of the drone renaissance that I saw 4/6/8 bladed multirotors have an AP failure, a blade break, a speed controller overheat, etc etc and it fell out of the sky, literally. These do not have a glideslope! Sure, a ballistic chute might prevent an onboard tragedy but I continue to wonder about what the flying ca…

> I want to know how this makes a safe unpowered descent.

That's likely one area where a helicopter would have a significant advantage.

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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I'll just say, VTOLs are just so stupidly cool. Seeing a plane just sort of pick up and climb into the air like this will never cease to just be 'woah' inducing.

I frequently wonder about the things we're waiting for batteries to grow into, this is one of those things that makes me think the future has a decent shot at being insane.

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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When a VTOL vehicle switches directions of the blades in the air, is there any sort of drop in altitude as it moves into the forward direction? Or is it a gradual type of thing as it starts angling forward? I could see any drop before it kicks in being startling for customers, especially if the motors are less powerful than a helicopter or jet. I noticed the video makes a cut from flying to the landing part, without…

May not be exactly the same, but I don't believe there's an appreciable drop on a tiltrotor like the V-22.

I thought about that (and watched a few examples) but these would have a much less powerful motor, so I was curious how it handles it.

Re: Kitty Hawk reveals its secret project, Heaviside

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I'm encouraged to see proper wings and empennage, glad you're not making an octocopter. Bonus points for conventional (tailwheel) landing gear.

But questions:

How fast can it fly and for how long?

Article says "weighs about one-third of a Cessna". So less than 1000 lbs empty?

And, importantly, with those wings, does it "stall" normally, at 40 mph or so?

Asking as a former J-3 Cub pilot who'll assuredly never afford this.

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