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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by icelancer »

gameswithgo wrote: post #21
AcerbicZero wrote: post #15

I kinda wish Tesla made a few regular petrol cars for the enthusiast type such as myself, as this sounds like a ton of neat technology to play around with. I'm just not in the market for an electric car, unfortunately. Edit: By enthusiast, I mean track/motorsport/etc enthusiast. I borrowed a Model S from a friend of mine for a few days and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't the most exciting drive, and I can't imagine it…

I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb . If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

Same. The Tesla Model 3 is great. I'd get one if I didn't have crushing doubt about their ability to service their cars. Or stay in business long-term.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by dx87 »

imglorp wrote: post #7
fullshark wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supposed use case described here is a parking lot also, where there will be lots of pedestrians darting between cars.

This might work out ok at low speed. The algorithm is simply "Don't hit anything. Stop if confused."

Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by w8vY7ER »

gameswithgo wrote: post #21
AcerbicZero wrote: post #15

I kinda wish Tesla made a few regular petrol cars for the enthusiast type such as myself, as this sounds like a ton of neat technology to play around with. I'm just not in the market for an electric car, unfortunately. Edit: By enthusiast, I mean track/motorsport/etc enthusiast. I borrowed a Model S from a friend of mine for a few days and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't the most exciting drive, and I can't imagine it…

I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb . If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

I'm in the same boat and also raced motorcycles around closed circuit racetracks in sanctioned events so I understand the draw. I have 25k miles on my '18 Model 3 now and can't imagine going back to even the best gas car I ever drove. It's just apples and oranges. Both have a special place in my heart but I'll take the EV nine times out of ten these days! Anybody on the fence should just give it a whirl and see for yourself!

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by dragonwriter »

the8472 wrote: post #30
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it's an "keep going" button that you have to hold down, but still, if you're phone freezes - is there a fail state we can be absolutely certain of between the phone and the car?

> we can be absolutely certain Such a thing does not exist. You can only add more nines (e.g. heartbeats, check sensor jitter etc.). At some point you're more likely to be ran over by another car than the tesla slowly, patiently crushing you at 2km/h. Of course that doesn't mean tesla is actually that reliable.

Heartbeats won't catch UI freezes, which I've seen on phones. Hopefully, those would result in a drop of the input signal rather than it locked in its prior state, though.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by pokstad »

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Other car manufactures have tried avoiding those two because they want to maintain control over their ecosystem. Read up on how Toyota failed at this with their special infotainment Linux OS.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by dfsegoat »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #25
Limb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what happens if your phone freezes and you can't push the "oh god, stop!" button? Would you still be at fault?

I guess it's an "keep going" button that you have to hold down, but still, if you're phone freezes - is there a fail state we can be absolutely certain of between the phone and the car?

"keep going" button = Dead mans switch [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by pokstad »

pokstad wrote: post #35
oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Other car manufactures have tried avoiding those two because they want to maintain control over their ecosystem. Read up on how Toyota failed at this with their special infotainment Linux OS.

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1110821_toyota-owners-...
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