yes, it's nice and everything, but where is CentOS 8.0 ?
https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.1905
No Docker image for the release yet, though, as far as I can see. Anyone know how long it usually takes for it to be made available?
CentOS Stream
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Re: CentOS Stream
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are misinterpreting what I said. I'm not talking about someone else impersonating RHEL. Canonical has no issue with its OS out in the market. RHEL could just be free to use (with updates but without other support) if they choose. This is how it used to be before it became RHEL anyway. Hence, CentOS was created as an outsider effort. Nowadays, CentOS is half inside RH, which is why the distinction is a bit silly.…
"RHEL could just be free to use (with updates but without other support) if they choose." But not with that name. Centos is as close as it can get.
That is so very incorrect. Way back in the beginning, they offered RHEL without support but with updates. At some point they started charging for access and eventually they raised the prices high enough that I couldn't afford to use it any more.
Re: CentOS Stream
#33Wow, a CentOS with a rolling release model. Super cool! I really hope this makes CentOS a bit more competitive with Ubuntu for the hobbiest/project space. Seems like raspbian/debian/ubuntu could use some competition in the space.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are misinterpreting what I said. I'm not talking about someone else impersonating RHEL. Canonical has no issue with its OS out in the market. RHEL could just be free to use (with updates but without other support) if they choose. This is how it used to be before it became RHEL anyway. Hence, CentOS was created as an outsider effort. Nowadays, CentOS is half inside RH, which is why the distinction is a bit silly.…
"RHEL could just be free to use (with updates but without other support) if they choose." But not with that name. Centos is as close as it can get.
Google is free to use, that doesn't mean that just anybody can take their trademark.
Trademarks have nothing to do with whether something is traded for money or not.
Re: CentOS Stream
#35>CentOS Stream is parallel to existing CentOS builds So why does regular CenOS exist in this day and age given its semi-official status under the RH umbrella ? Why doesn't RH just let people use RHEL without support ? Isn't it a massive waste of everyone's resources to rebuild everything and remove the trademarks? This seems like a more interesting future for CentOS to have as something different from baseline RHEL.
Oracle Java is practically identical to OpenJDK Java too. I'm not sure if its branding or legal, but the big companies like it that way.
OpenJDK is based on Oracle Java. CentOS on the other hand is based on RHEL. That would be like OpenJDK being based on Oracle Java.
Re: CentOS Stream
#36>The CentOS Stream project sits between the Fedora Project and RHEL in the RHEL Development process, providing a "rolling preview" of future RHEL kernels and features.
Thats what Fedora was originally for. Fedora advancements were mainlined into RHEL, and RHEL was repackaged as Centos.
If i had to propose a theory...At worst, this is "embrace, extend, extinguish." Tacking on a vainglorious service for an already successful project thats siphoning potential customers. Centos cant directly relate their brand to RedHat, but Redhat gets to call their offering "Centos Stream" when Centos is itself a trademark? Its very suspicious.
At best, this is Redhat acknowledging that they were absolutely blindsided by Docker, Compose, and Kubernetes in RHEL7. This all existed in EPEL and customers clearly felt preferential to the offerings themselves, while RedHat had to scramble to allocate resources to Openshift, podman, and a potential ground-up fork of Docker itself into Redhat as Swarm was clearly a direct threat. SCL is dated and cludgy.
By injecting themselves into Centos, they may put themselves closer to a developer market that theyve historically not been able to tap. Startups and small businesses dont buy IBM/Redhat licenses or support. They also have a chance to react to potential disasters like Docker much faster, albeit seeing as they are a part of the big blue machine now, its hard to imagine this will help in the long run.
Re: CentOS Stream
#37Sounds like an interesting option to discover, considering the enterprise professional background of the project.
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#38So basically the cloud competitor for Ubuntu, since they marketed Fedora wrong all the time.
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#39So who is this for?
Blog post says this is for people who want to test stuff before it lands in RHEL. Valuable to enterprise hardware/software companies etc..
But, if it's sort of a rolling RHEL, then this could be excellent for people who trust RHEL and want stability, but more frequent updates (which is exactly why I know lots of people using Debian Testing over Stable).
Re: CentOS Stream
#40More info and explanation here from the CentOS team: https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSStream