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Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Unfortunately, there are workplaces that will remove things like a pullup bar because it's seen as a distraction.

I would be pretty distracted if there were people using pullup bars and doing pushups in my office...

If your office consists of just one big room where everything must happen, then pullups/pushups are probably the least of your distractions.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Where there's a will, there's a way. At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside. If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some…

Kudos but it's not even necessary to go that far, basically sitting down and being indoors all day long is the culprit and incorporating more walking activities in our daily lives would be a good start. Pushups and exercises are good on the body but are not addressing root of the problem, they're merely ways to cope with it.

I like the idea of a standup desk with a slow treadmill underneath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0JtUeyVJA (Linus Torvalds Guides Tour of His Home Office)

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

The study had people walk 10,000 fewer steps in a day. So, walking more would reverse it if the study was right. In practice it would mean taking periodic breaks to walk around a bit, and trying to arrange things such that you could walk some of your commute, or walk to the store, etc Obviously harder for people in suburbia.

> harder in suburbia

True, takes some adjustments... When I drive somewhere, I try to park at the back of the parking lot for a bit of a walk (bonus: keeps your car dent free too).

When I go check my mail, I walk to the end of the block first and get it on my way back (bonus: get to keep an eye on my neighborhood and say hi to some neighbors).

When I drop my daughter at school we park a block away and walk in (bonus: get to spend more time with my daughter and meet some other parents).

These changes all sound trivial, but from my fitness tracker I can attest that they make a quantifiable difference, especially when you look at it over a month. Additionally, those other little bonuses contribute to overall happiness.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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I wish these articles tried to look for a solution. Would standing and waking every 45 mins be good enough? Would standing and then moderate intensity at 45 mins be good enough etc. What about eating less and more fasting to combat sedentary. What about a balance board while standing?

I wonder if your time would be better spent progressive-overload deadlifting 2x a week?

I don't think you can undo sitting 50-100 hours a week with a few hours of walking any more than fasting a few hours would make up overeating for a month. I'm thinking we need a BIG acute stimulus to counteract a sustained chronic stimulus of inactivity. The dead lift is a VERY BIG stimulus.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

I don't think anyone needs the government's help to know that moving around is better than sitting all day. Whether or not one finds a way to fit that into their routine is a personal choice, but this is common sense.

I don't think people know that simply getting up and walking for 10 minutes every 2 hours would reduce their body fat levels. In fact, I've seen a study [1] which concludes you simply can't undo a days worth of sitting with a vigorous exercise session. I think science is starting to show that frequency of movement is an important part of a healthy lifestyle, not just intensity of movement. Going to the gym after 8 hours infront of the computer is just not sufficient to combat weight gain.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404815/

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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I think every one knows what needs to change as well. To effectively use our bodies in the way they've evolved, we need to be using them from sun-up to sun-down every day. We evolved on savanas, upland steppes, mountains, and jungles; hunting, gathering, foraging, defending, building, with raw human power, for the vast majority of our time on this planet. If we had to push plows with human labor; gather and reap the…

>If we had to push plows with human labor; gather and reap the harvest by had, I guarantee you we'd be fit af. We'd also be worn out by middle age. Look at various manual labor trades for example. You wind up with a couple muscle groups in great shape and a couple others that are just destroyed.

I’d guess “Labor” is the key operative word here, i.e. working not directly for what is produced but selling labor for a low, unskilled wage. I wonder whether subsistence farming one’s own land is necessarily as bad, I’d think you can just stop working when you have enough to eat, but people paid by the hour or whatever always seem to push too far.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

I work in front of a computer, at a standing desk. You can get adjustable desks too and stand for part of the day. The "not sitting" part is achievable, I believe there are countries (Denmark maybe?) that even mandate that computer desks in offices be adjustable so everyone can choose whether to sit or stand. That said, I've been working at my standing desk for over a year, I wasn't very fit before, and I don't feel…

Standing desks have their problems too (veins, etc). Seems that treadmill desks or literally taking a walk are much preferable

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

#38

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

I work in front of a computer, at a standing desk. You can get adjustable desks too and stand for part of the day. The "not sitting" part is achievable, I believe there are countries (Denmark maybe?) that even mandate that computer desks in offices be adjustable so everyone can choose whether to sit or stand. That said, I've been working at my standing desk for over a year, I wasn't very fit before, and I don't feel…

The issue is remaining static, sitting is fine in small doses but the longer you sit, the more problematic as blood pools, muscles adaptively shorten, and your posture deteriorates. Sitting down, getting up, walking, driving, we also need to be cognizant of our posture and form during these motions, as there are right and wrong ways that put more or less stress on the body. For instance, sitting down from the hips, bending from those joints while maintaining an upright chest. Or walking, ensuring your feet point mostly parallel and forward, not out to the sides. Also, computer guy posture is rampant amongst tech workers, taking time off to stretch and mobilize is key to avoid long term kyphosis.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

#39

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Drink lots of water - it's good for you and the enforced toilet breaks can add up to a lot of extra movement during the day.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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The study had people walk 10,000 fewer steps in a day. So, walking more would reverse it if the study was right. In practice it would mean taking periodic breaks to walk around a bit, and trying to arrange things such that you could walk some of your commute, or walk to the store, etc Obviously harder for people in suburbia.

> harder in suburbia True, takes some adjustments... When I drive somewhere, I try to park at the back of the parking lot for a bit of a walk (bonus: keeps your car dent free too). When I go check my mail, I walk to the end of the block first and get it on my way back (bonus: get to keep an eye on my neighborhood and say hi to some neighbors). When I drop my daughter at school we park a block away and walk in (bonus:…

Yup, great ideas. They really do add up. Even in a city I find stuff like that helps me, I often extend an errand through a park for example.

Here's another: when I'm in a multi story building, I almost never take the elevator down. If the building is less than five stories I'll generally take the stairs up too, often at a light run.

One more: stairs instead of escalator. At minimum, walking on an escalator.

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