iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by overcast » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:35 PM UTC

jonlucc wrote: post #4

The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

The key elements to these photos basically come down to dramatic lighting(dawn/dusk), leading lines(look at the bridge and waterway shots, your eyes are guided to the mountains and the horizon), and the rule of thirds(dividing your image up into quadrants, and keeping important subjects at their intersections). Basic stuff, but as always requires LOTS of practice and experimentation.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by charrondev » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:35 PM UTC

ansgri wrote: post #6

samvher wrote: post #2

These night mode shots are seriously impressive. This might give DSLR manufacturers something to catch up with.

DSLR manufacturers already have compact mirrorless to catch up with. Now only if the mirrorless moguls would recognize the potential of ehnancing their comparatively giant APS-C sensors with at least half the computational photography wits of modern camera phones, now that would be magnificent. Also, for me personally, the next waypoint for the phones should be the development of compact telephoto lenses -- it seems…

I’m not sure how it is at APS-C (I use a full frame DSLR) but I don’t think there’s much room in the workflow of a lot people using DSLRs for more computation I’m the camera itself.

I know if I want a _great_ picture I

- shoot raw. - shoot on manual mode (often still with auto exposure). - put the photo into Lightroom.

With a huge sensor and a fast lens there’s no need for a lot of the computational photography phones are doing:

- “portrait mode” - unneeded when you have a fast lens and can get more real bokeh than you could ever need. - “night mode” - with modern sensors you can get usable images even at 6400/12800 ISO. This lets you get a solid image even at a reasonable, handheld shutter speed.

The real improvement other than sensor dynamic range and pixel count has been in autofocus. I still miss some some shots with my Canon because I didn’t react fast enough to nail my focus.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by beisner » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:40 PM UTC

celeritascelery wrote: post #29

truth_seeker wrote: post #26

I recently started appreciating 60fps screen but, iPhone 11 came up with 240 fps Galaxy Note10+ came up with 960fps and now Huawei Mate 30 Pro with 7680 fps

At what point is it no longer noticeable?

120fps

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by DonHopkins » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:41 PM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #24

DonHopkins wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought it would be safer to forge the GPS data so it points to a police station, instead of just removing it. Then your stalkers and thieves might be arrested for loitering and breaking and entering there, instead of at your own home.

Which police station? What coordinates precisely? Could there be signs of which software you used to alter the data? All these things could leak bits of identifying information, which I think is strictly worse than the 1 bit of information leaked by removing EXIF entirely.

One that will cost your enemies a lot of money to travel to, in a dangerous neighborhood, with a long record of police brutality and violence.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by jug » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:42 PM UTC

I feel for the compact camera manufacturers.

Smartphones killed the 2/3" sensor market. Now they've killed the 1" sensor market too. Micro 4/3 is stale with no major sensor advancements for years now. What's left, APS-C and up?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by gregkerzhner » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:43 PM UTC

familysized wrote: post #12

The fisherman seen in that photo is also in these very similar photos... http://davidbuddphotography.com/galleries/01-places/china/gu...

this guy runs a really popular tourist photography show in Yangshuo, China, which is one of the most popular tourist destinations within China both for local Chinese and foreigners. He uses a bird to catch fish for him. The birds throat is clamped so it cannot swallow the fish. I think it reflects an old way that fishing used to happen, but nowadays it’s purely a show for photographer tourists and you have to pay him some money for the show. (Shamless plug, but here is a video my wife and I made of our climbing trip to the region - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnlYUA-fmTE)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by Analemma_ » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:43 PM UTC

jonlucc wrote: post #4

The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

The low light performance seems like a genuine leap forward compared to previous iPhones, so your low-light shots will probably look considerably better with no effort required on your part. But to get the rest of the benefits and take pictures like the other, you’ll need genuine photographic training/experience.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by mtw » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

I would love a high-resolution photos of these. The small size look amazing for phones like Huawei P30 Pro or Samsung Note 10, but then you realize that the full size version has blotched textures or excessive sharpness

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by lumost » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

overcast wrote: post #31

jonlucc wrote: post #4

The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

The key elements to these photos basically come down to dramatic lighting(dawn/dusk), leading lines(look at the bridge and waterway shots, your eyes are guided to the mountains and the horizon), and the rule of thirds(dividing your image up into quadrants, and keeping important subjects at their intersections). Basic stuff, but as always requires LOTS of practice and experimentation.

One thing modern cameras do a great job at is making it easy to photograph dramatic lighting. Historically it required a lot of practice and hand tuning with pricier equipment to take such photos.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by pdpi » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

oflannabhra wrote: post #10

samvher wrote: post #2

These night mode shots are seriously impressive. This might give DSLR manufacturers something to catch up with.

I would love someone to design and manufacture an enclosure for an iPhone that allowed for better ergonomics and controls. I think the Camera app is one of the pinnacles of Apple's software engineering, but sometimes shooting on my DSLR really makes me value how beneficial things like knobs and buttons. Obviously this might require using a 3rd party app as well, but I would gladly pay several hundred dollars for such…

The next step over from that logic is Fuji's XT-3 (and other cameras in that line) that have brought back many of the physical controls that have been removed from newer DSLR cameras.