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More info about the underlying technology: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/smart-camera-portal-advances More info about the privacy settings: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/ Disclosure: I work at FB, my team developed the underlying MaskR-CNN technology.
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It's actually a fantastic business model if you care more about profits than ethics, and it seems like Facebook wants a piece of the living room surveillance pie that Smart TVs/Alexa/Google Nest have been enjoying these last few years. It's a shrewd business move on Facebook's part; think of the things people discuss and do in their living rooms and the additional data they will end up giving Facebook.
I think they actually mean that 1984 shouldn’t be a business model.
I'm sure lots of smart people spent a lot of time and effort working on this, but unfortunately my answer is: Hell no!
As someone in the same boat as you, it does seem like Portal webpage is directly acknowledging this sentiment and addressing them[0]. Whether or not this page can be trusted, we'll have to see what people find out (I sure ain't going to pay for it to do that myself). [0]: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/
Dear Wife, there was a question about my behavior towards you in the past. Some think I was rough with you but in my defense I have never been convicted of giving you that black eye. Please keep supporting me!
It is one of those rather notable regrets that I did not save that video, even though it clearly struck me to recall it all this time. If I recall correctly, it was a seemingly impromptu talk outside in the open either at a charity or corporate socializing event. It was definitely not in some venue, let alone in a large one where he's basically parroting corporate talking points. Which may also explain the candor and seemingly single mention of his intentions that has stuck with me all this time.
More info about the underlying technology: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/smart-camera-portal-advances More info about the privacy settings: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/ Disclosure: I work at FB, my team developed the underlying MaskR-CNN technology.
>You can completely disable the camera and microphone on Portal with a single tap or with a sliding switch. A red light next to the lens indicates the camera and microphone are off. I think a hardware breakdown video would go a long way. For example, an engineer showing that the kill switches actually work correctly. Either way, I hope somebody vets this.
More info about the underlying technology: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/smart-camera-portal-advances More info about the privacy settings: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/ Disclosure: I work at FB, my team developed the underlying MaskR-CNN technology.
Most people in this thread are saying, essentially, "Fool me once..." But I'm curious to know if engineers internal to Facebook are aware they are in the same situation, where the privacy assurances by the company will eventually get usurped by its thirst for data. Or do you acknowledge that will happen and just see yourself as a mercenary?
I'm sure lots of smart people spent a lot of time and effort working on this, but unfortunately my answer is: Hell no!
As someone in the same boat as you, it does seem like Portal webpage is directly acknowledging this sentiment and addressing them[0]. Whether or not this page can be trusted, we'll have to see what people find out (I sure ain't going to pay for it to do that myself). [0]: https://portal.facebook.com/privacy/
I know there probably won't be much actual discussion on anything but privacy concerns here on HN (don't get me wrong, it's an important discussion to have, but it tends to push out literally everything else), but I did want to point out that this quote from the article is nice to see: >We’ve done what we can in this latest generation of products, now with integrated camera covers that are hardware, indicator lights…
The first Portal devices as well as this Portal TV are using an OS based on Android AOSP. So porting Fire TV or Android TV apps will be much more easy for developers who want to offer their content on the Portal TV.
In fact it's more likely that they will try to come out with their own hardware IMO. At every step of the way streaming companies have made it harder and harder to actually use their services. From exclusivity deals with one vendor over another, to having shows and movies jump from service to service over the years. Unless I can get some kind of assurance that i'll be able to actually use this to watch a good amount of tv shows and movies with friends and family, i'm not going to gamble on it.
Sure, they might be able to get Netflix on it eventually, but Amazon probably won't touch it, Google will probably steer clear if they can, and the "cable-based streaming services" don't look like they even have the time or ability to maintain the apps and services they already have.
At the end of the day I expect some basic services to come eventually, but they probably won't bother integrating with the more advanced features like simultaneous streaming on multiple devices and other stuff. I'd love to be surprised, but I just don't have much faith any more.