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iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#31

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Does an App have to request Bluetooth permission for playing audio over Bluetooth headphones?

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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post #5

Huh, all that and I didn’t see an explicit call out to how Apple has changed the location sharing in the background prompts to include a creepy map, prompting you to wake up a bit instead of automatically hitting Allow location sharing: https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/18/ios-13-security-privacy

Wow. What's the opposite of an anti-pattern? Because in terms of visualizing the privacy implications that deserves real praise and likely took quite a bit of work.

They should be proud of that, and it makes it seem like their privacy push is more than just a momentary marking-led move.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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post #22

This article sold me in switching to iPhone. It's like everything about Facebook dating seems like a eugenic program to favour people with a naive and submissive tendency toward power and authorities. As a technology change, online dating has become a "radical monopoly (Illich)," in the sense that whether you use it or not, you are subject to it, the way a cyclist is subject to the car, and any algorithmic bias or si…

I just switched two months ago. Been an Android users since 3.x days. I switched mostly for privacy reasons as as well. The original idea of why I liked Android: open source / Linux based, I developed apps for it, are not as important as giving too much control and my data to Google at this point. Been pretty happy with it as a new user. At first it was hard getting used to not having a back button where I expected i…

> The interface is slick and nice, however, I'd have have to say in recent years Android mostly caught up in that regard.

How would you say are the apps in this regard? Are ios apps more standardized than android's?

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#34

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Does an App have to request Bluetooth permission for playing audio over Bluetooth headphones?

I don’t think so. Access to audio over Bluetooth goes through a separate system that is mostly opaque to the app.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#35

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Plus they added mouse support (on iPad). iOS 13 really is a great release. I just wish they allowed you to full hide the mouse cursor when the mouse isn't plugged in (the option that implies it does exactly that does not).

You can use the accessibility shortcut to quickly turn on/off the cursor.

Its constant presence is an artifact of apple pretending the mouse will only be used by those who need the pointer always for accessibility reasons.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#36

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Does an App have to request Bluetooth permission for playing audio over Bluetooth headphones?

No, that's handled by the system

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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post #18
post #10

Tell your non-it friends to uninstall the facebook app and use the web browser interface instead if they want to stay on facebook. Preferably they also block all 3rd party cookies, use an ad-blocker and occasionally delete all cookies and reset their Ad-Id.

Is there an alternative to the Messenger app? I've been unable to convince some friends to move off of this.

Some third party apps allow messages iirc. Of course then you need to trust the dev

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#38

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

> In some of these, Apple is catching up to Android Where Android/Google itself is a bigger problem perhaps than the 3rd party apps.

What's funny is with Android 10 you get these prompts now too (can't say how comparative the two features are though). My biggest offender is Google's apps requesting location access in the background; Hangouts, Messenger, Phone, etc. all asking for access when I'm not using the app. Naturally I block them, but since they're all Google products I wonder how much that even matters.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#39

This article sold me in switching to iPhone. It's like everything about Facebook dating seems like a eugenic program to favour people with a naive and submissive tendency toward power and authorities. As a technology change, online dating has become a "radical monopoly (Illich)," in the sense that whether you use it or not, you are subject to it, the way a cyclist is subject to the car, and any algorithmic bias or si…

I'm curious your reasoning to switch to Apple who is not known to be Pro-consumer. Aren't you afraid they are using your data without you Knowing?

It's not like Apple would voluntarily reveal that.

For example, they claim top security, but that is ambiguous. Meaning you really can't trust their marketing at all.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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post #11

This article sold me in switching to iPhone. It's like everything about Facebook dating seems like a eugenic program to favour people with a naive and submissive tendency toward power and authorities. As a technology change, online dating has become a "radical monopoly (Illich)," in the sense that whether you use it or not, you are subject to it, the way a cyclist is subject to the car, and any algorithmic bias or si…

" It's like everything about Facebook dating seems like a eugenic program to favour people with a naive and submissive tendency toward power and authorities. " That makes a great quote!

Or future Andrew Niccol movie!
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