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Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by kweks »

idlewords wrote: post #23

The Hong Kong police raise a banner warning of "tear smoke" when they're about to fire, and this is a much less confusing name for the stuff than tear gas. A cartridge of something hot and smoking skitters at your feet. You can throw it back, or douse it with water, or immerse it in water, but you'll burn your hand if you don't have gloves on. The smoke is a powerful irritant that feels like someone blew pepper into…

I have experienced several riots (Hong Kong 2019, Hong Kong 2013, Istanbul 2013, Paris 2019..) where gas was deployed. Your comments are pithy and correct.

What is interesting is observing theearning curve of the protest participants, who rapidly learn and adapt, but always seem initially underprepared.

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by [deleted] »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #30
cf498 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea why this is downvoted, I think its a daring thesis that China cares what the rest of the world thinks. On top of that there are only a few countries that can afford and are willing to actually act on something like this, there is just to much money to be made in the Chinese market. That lethal force against protesters leads somehow automatically to breaking down of political support is wishful thinking. Do yo…

The US has launched a trade/tariff skirmish against China. Not because of Hong Kong, but it shows a government willing to act.

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Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by cf498 »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #30
cf498 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea why this is downvoted, I think its a daring thesis that China cares what the rest of the world thinks. On top of that there are only a few countries that can afford and are willing to actually act on something like this, there is just to much money to be made in the Chinese market. That lethal force against protesters leads somehow automatically to breaking down of political support is wishful thinking. Do yo…

The US has launched a trade/tariff skirmish against China. Not because of Hong Kong, but it shows a government willing to act.

The US started a trade conflict due to geopolitical interests, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The US is willing to act in their best interest, we are talking about countries acting against their best interest out of a humanitarian conviction.

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

#35

Post by WildGreenLeave »

kweks wrote: post #31
idlewords wrote: post #23

The Hong Kong police raise a banner warning of "tear smoke" when they're about to fire, and this is a much less confusing name for the stuff than tear gas. A cartridge of something hot and smoking skitters at your feet. You can throw it back, or douse it with water, or immerse it in water, but you'll burn your hand if you don't have gloves on. The smoke is a powerful irritant that feels like someone blew pepper into…

I have experienced several riots (Hong Kong 2019, Hong Kong 2013, Istanbul 2013, Paris 2019..) where gas was deployed. Your comments are pithy and correct. What is interesting is observing theearning curve of the protest participants, who rapidly learn and adapt, but always seem initially underprepared.

You sparked my interest here :-)

Why have you experienced so many different riots? Are you a reporter, a protestor or something else?

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by cf498 »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #9

This is one of those things that might just be good to know for whatever reason in the future. Thanks for the post.

As no one else mentioned it, depending on which country you are in, you should never try to pick up a tear gas canister shot/thrown at you as you might confuse it with a flash bang in the heat of the moment. There is a long list of people in France who tried to throw back flash bang grenades and lost a hand as a result.

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by kweks »

WildGreenLeave wrote: post #35
kweks wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have experienced several riots (Hong Kong 2019, Hong Kong 2013, Istanbul 2013, Paris 2019..) where gas was deployed. Your comments are pithy and correct. What is interesting is observing theearning curve of the protest participants, who rapidly learn and adapt, but always seem initially underprepared.

You sparked my interest here :-) Why have you experienced so many different riots? Are you a reporter, a protestor or something else?

Right place at the wrong time, mainly. The Istanbul protests were the exception, as I knew several people and wanted to see the situation personally.

What is true is that Life Goes On. Even in Istanbul or Paris with the huge protests, if you're not in that specific part of town at that specific moment, you wouldn't even know it was happening.

Hotels in HK are wildly cheap at the moment.. it's the time to visit a tourist free city and witness (for better or for worse) history in motion

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by Shivetya »

jonplackett wrote: post #32

> Potassium nitrate particularly helps charcoal burn faster, according to Wired. Is it just me, or is it weird for Wired Magazine to the the source of knowledge for chemistry?

Odder for me were the informative articles on SyFy's site Bad Astronomy section.

I will take good and interesting information wherever I can get it. Isn't that what makes the internet great? That we have so many sources that we are bound to come across something we had little to no knowledge of and then have the ability to cross check it?

Re: Neutralizing Tear Gas

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Post by RickJWagner »

I experienced tear gas first hand, as part of US Air Force training.

It's terrible. Your eyes water, fluids pour out of your nose and down your throat, you choke. Truly an effective invention.

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