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Re: Not a full timer

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>If you’re a full-time employee who must go to the office, you have to dress the part. If you look different than your peers, you look ridiculous and out of place.

I have been full time employee in my whole career, no one had really told me what to wear. I have been to office in sportswear and no one seems to mind that. I don't think this point is necessarily true at least in tech.

Re: Not a full timer

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It never feels like the contractor is an "expert" in a field, is any more efficient than another employee and is nothing more than another person that has been hired to do programming with less HR/employment overhead. So not sure which audience this article is aimed at. Maybe my experience in London doesn't reflect other places but as a contract and as someone who has looked for contractors it never felt like we got…

Your not paying for the best you are probably paying a similiar amount for your fulltime employees. What you get is all of the people who couldn't find a fulltime role who have to take this without any benefits so the quality is lower. Now if you remote sourced the role gems will be found.

You have completely misunderstood the UK market - note that the OP talked about London. Perhaps as a way to get past the recruiting problem, UK corporates pay a premium for exerienced programmers on the basis that if they cannot do the job, they are let go immediately without severance. Most contractors are 30+, don't want to be 'in charge' (at meetings, giving interviews, being trained in the latest corporate 'values') and are happy to be given a product to build or maintain.

Every contractor I know resigned from a permanent position in their early thirties to go contracting and make 1.5x-2x as much money as a contractor. Businesses regularly offer contractors full-time positions and are regularly turned down.

Contractors may not be particularly special technically, but they will focus on doing what they're told in the team and not attending training, seminars, workshops or HR meetings. I'd much rather build a product with a team of suitably incentivised and managed contractors than a team of permies.

Re: Not a full timer

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If you follow the authors other advice of not charging to little (which is strongly connected to how much your client values you), that's rarely a problem in my experience. My client knows my hourly rate, so when I tell them that the extra features take 3 additional hours they know exactly how much that would cost them. No haggling, no negotiations, no meeting. Of course that only works with time-based billing, and a…

This is definitely the case with "good"/recurring clients, and it's very painless. Not so much with others.

Then you don't want those others. I know it is hard to turn down work when you are getting a consulting business going, but there are "good" clients, and "bad" clients. You are not doing your future self any favors by rewarding bad clients with free work.

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I find the term 'full time' unnecessarily ambiguous. Certainly 'employee' suggests something contra to 'contractor', but there's no reason someone working 40 hours a week can't or shouldn't be considered full-time regardless of their permanent / contractor status. I can't tell if this is irony, in the context of being 'precise in your communications' and advice to 'edit ruthlessly': > You must ruflessly cut out bulls…

Maybe it's not the best term, but it's pretty widely used. Either you're a "full-time employee" or you're a temp or contractor. Certain perks or systems are described as "FTE-only".

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Your not paying for the best you are probably paying a similiar amount for your fulltime employees. What you get is all of the people who couldn't find a fulltime role who have to take this without any benefits so the quality is lower. Now if you remote sourced the role gems will be found.

You have completely misunderstood the UK market - note that the OP talked about London. Perhaps as a way to get past the recruiting problem, UK corporates pay a premium for exerienced programmers on the basis that if they cannot do the job, they are let go immediately without severance. Most contractors are 30+, don't want to be 'in charge' (at meetings, giving interviews, being trained in the latest corporate 'value…

True, when I was contracting I did attend less meetings although it always felt like too many and the pay was good (not so much now).

But I always found it a little bit of a lie when the idea of a contractor coming in and working on a problem from day 2 or 3.

Granted this usually was because the problem was poorly defined and/or limited but even when I joined teams that had really good project managers it still was not as simple as "work on this in isolation".

I have since ditched contracting in UK, too much of a mess with the taxman.

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It depends on the firm. At some non-tech firms, being an independent is the only way to get higher cash. (Not universal) In this case an expert developer who doesn’t want to manage people escapes junior level salary bands.

In the US, it's a cash vs benefits trade-off. I am happy to sacrifice a lot of salary to get the Cadillac healthcare my company offers to me and my family at no cost.

Why not just buying the healthcare package yourself and paying for it from more cash you make as a contractor? Honest question since I live in a country with a very different healthcare system...

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In the US, it's a cash vs benefits trade-off. I am happy to sacrifice a lot of salary to get the Cadillac healthcare my company offers to me and my family at no cost.

Why not just buying the healthcare package yourself and paying for it from more cash you make as a contractor? Honest question since I live in a country with a very different healthcare system...

It’s usually much more expensive to buy as an individual compared to a group. Health care economics are weird.

Re: Not a full timer

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> Posted by Mohamed Hayibor on Sat, Aug 31, 31089 I mean, if I were a time traveller, I wouldn't be spending my limited output on this sort of stuff ;) More seriously - to me this guy seems a bit.. I dunno, try hard? Like they want to prove something about how aggressive they are. You don't need to be all "gogogo" to do contracting. The last bit is kind of illustrative. I think they've had bad experiences in the past…

I did burn out and recovered. And I write from 1st hand experiences, not speculations.

If you're young and insecure you might fall into the low pay downward spiral trap. You'll burn out.

And I'm not advocative anything "gogogo"or aggressive, in fact I said that you should be aiming to work less hours...

Finally I'd be interested in knowing what life experiences you had to think that this post was "aggressive" or "try-hard".

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