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Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

#31
This is just really generic advice that most people would come up with themselves by thinking about it for a while. I feel like this a constant problem with these advice blogs. I've learned so much from books like How to win friends and influence people, feeling good, meditations, etc. Yet I rarely ever see that advice repeated anywhere, they just go for really low hanging fruit and not a lot of thought is put into it.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

#32

>Quick...tells his students he’s always available – except between 10pm and 6am. It’s important to put limits on when you’re reachable, he says. Really...this is their example of healthy boundary setting? A professor who says he's available the entire time he's awake, but won't answer emails when he's supposed to be sleeping.

I thought the exact same thing reading this.

Average healthy sleep time is 8 hour a day. Even if it's less for some, this professor can be disturbed when he eats ? When he is in his shower ?

Seems strange to me.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is literally the definition of the word. If you can run for more than, at most, a minute or so at a given pace you are pr. definition not sprinting.

Isn't any running unsustainable though ?

Not really. Google ultramarathoning, Humans are incredibly well designed to run long distances at a sustained pace, it's like the one other thing we rock at better than other animals other than intelligence.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is literally the definition of the word. If you can run for more than, at most, a minute or so at a given pace you are pr. definition not sprinting.

Isn't any running unsustainable though ?

A sprinter is wasted after 100m. A marathon runner is wasted after 26.2 miles. Then there are the ultra marathoners. I believe the analogy holds.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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>Quick...tells his students he’s always available – except between 10pm and 6am. It’s important to put limits on when you’re reachable, he says. Really...this is their example of healthy boundary setting? A professor who says he's available the entire time he's awake, but won't answer emails when he's supposed to be sleeping.

Heh. I gave my students a 24 hour SLO for responding to emails when I was a TA in grad school, but I told them most emails would get responded to in less than 8 hours. That seemed to work well enough for all concerned: they got their question answered reasonably quickly, and I wasn't chained to my computer 24/7.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #11

What is funny about this is that Atlasssian’s Jira product is designed for two week “sprints”, a term referring to the idea of running quickly at a rate above a sustainable pace with no intent to keep running after the end. But these sprints normally are done repeatedly with no actual stop or sight of a finish line. Employees just churn through tickets with no designed breathing room or planned downtime. Jira is prob…

In JIRA your performance is constantly measured comparing the actual work against the estimates, which are usually not under the developer control. There are reports produced that developers don't get to see that the manager does to compare developers this way. Of course, this can be easilly gamed. The most cunning developers will go out of their way to get the tasks that are clearly defined in scope and that they ar…

You should say "In JIRA your performance could be measured"...

We use JIRA and we find it extremely useful, although we never use real-time values for estimates or reporting. Story points, which I believe are recommended by the Agile framework, are used to estimate and draw burn down charts and reports. We can then use these to adjust our estimates for future sprints.

JIRA really is a tool and just because some managers use it poorly, doesn't mean that is why it was created. Those managers would be bad regardless of the tool.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “sprints”, a term referring to the idea of running quickly at a rate above a sustainable pace why would it it be "above sustainable pace".

That is literally the definition of the word. If you can run for more than, at most, a minute or so at a given pace you are pr. definition not sprinting.

Sprints also have a specific meaning in Agile/Scrum vocabulary which should be pretty common around here. That's like suggesting github promotes physically aggressive behavior because it's centered around pushing. Nothing about a sprint in Scrum terminology is meant mean an unsustainable pace.

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is literally the definition of the word. If you can run for more than, at most, a minute or so at a given pace you are pr. definition not sprinting.

Sprints also have a specific meaning in Agile/Scrum vocabulary which should be pretty common around here. That's like suggesting github promotes physically aggressive behavior because it's centered around pushing. Nothing about a sprint in Scrum terminology is meant mean an unsustainable pace.

'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't — till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

-- L. Carroll

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #5

Burnout is an inevitable consequence of the modern workplace for a lot of people. A lot of those who don't have any problem with burnout are the ones burning out other people. In the modern workplace, workers are often given a task without being given the good conditions to take it through, or a good overview of the context that the task is part of. A good percentage of the tasks but not all are hot potatoes, and it…

> a clueless middle manager who has never coded the simplest of programs in his/her life. I've never had manager who hasn't coded ever in his life. WhatI had most of the time was a manager who hasn't coded in a longtime.

Putt's Law: "Technology is dominated by two types of people, those who understand what they do not manage and those who manage what they do not understand."

Putt's Corollary: "Every technical hierarchy, in time, develops a competence inversion." with incompetence being "flushed out of the lower levels" of a technocratic hierarchy, ensuring that technically competent people remain directly in charge of the actual technology while those without technical competence move into management.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putt%27s_Law_and_the_Successfu...

Re: Burnout is real – how to avoid it

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post #5

Burnout is an inevitable consequence of the modern workplace for a lot of people. A lot of those who don't have any problem with burnout are the ones burning out other people. In the modern workplace, workers are often given a task without being given the good conditions to take it through, or a good overview of the context that the task is part of. A good percentage of the tasks but not all are hot potatoes, and it…

I don't understand where this is coming from?

I've worked in the industry for 10 years and have never seen any of this, except for three people who were PIPd.

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