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How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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post #16

>Warn them or even sign NDAs prohibiting any talks about wages, bonuses, compensation plans, etc. Isn't this actually illegal?

might depend on the state but for sure illegal in most. At the same time, I've never heard of it being litigated, ever. Usually the people told not to talk about their salaries are making the most.

Illegal on the federal level (1935 National Labor Relations Act)

Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brainwash them regularly by communicating how great your company is, how big its mission is, and how important their contribution is. It works even better in the world of classified programs because, due to compartmentalization of information, the engineers don't know much about the overall project or what anybody else is doing. But they can always be sure their contributions are important...to management's bonuses.

As I'm practicing consulting cases right now for an MBB interview, my standard question to reducing company costs is: can we reduce labor costs by lowering their wage? Ah, they're unionized. Ok, let's look at another cost saving strategy that does not involve labor. The first time I learned this I was shocked that this is a standard question in case practice for strategy/implementation consultants. Now I'm happy that…

I remember reading about one large consulting form whose answer was always "lay off 25% of your staff" regardless of what the question was.

Of course, companies would have to pay a huge amount to get that answer - but it was always the same answer.

This was from the book "Rip-Off":

https://www.leadershipreview.net/business-management-consult...

Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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"They must keep this information secret. Warn them or even sign NDAs prohibiting any talks about wages, bonuses, compensation plans, etc"

That's directly illegal, at least in Denmark, so I assume in the rest of the civilized works as well.

Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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post #17

Dealing with a talentless narcissistic manager or a dipshit CEO? A talentless piece of hack who doesn't know anything about technology but is somehow calling the shots ? 0. Boundary setting doesn't work with these losers because they don't respect them, so you will have to adopt devious tactics. Running away is a cowardly act. Learn how to spot them and their co-dependent friends. I would highly recommend the book Cr…

Been though that once on my last job in Canada.

After 1.5 years on the job I was quite elated to promoted to "work directly under a C-level" in a quite sizeable company when I was just 25 years old.

That was in a sourcing company that works for BestBuy, Target, LondonDrugs, WM, Amazon, and other top tier retailers, delivering OEM stuff on demand for their captive brands.

The man... happened to be a totally textbook case of "pro-manager:" net worth of few millions, few cousins and brothers in similar corporate positions, black lambo, and a mistress secretary.

I quickly understood that I became the only "general" in the business that keep things going on the technology side, and that the business will not be able to keep going unless they can customise products beyond the paint job and silkscreens.

We came to an eventual animosity, and few months after the "promotion" we had an argument in his office where he tried his cheap pressure tactic, and he made me to slam the door. As I was going through the parking lot, I saw the guy running shouting "how much you want!?"

I returned to the building and had him talk it over with me not in his office, but in the middle of cubicles of the team, to everybody's amused looks.

In the end, it was the LMIA rules update that made me leave Canada and that company. Been working with in an engineering consulting company in China for nearly 3 years now, and I can't be more happy now with Canada kicking me out.

Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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post #35

"They must keep this information secret. Warn them or even sign NDAs prohibiting any talks about wages, bonuses, compensation plans, etc" That's directly illegal, at least in Denmark, so I assume in the rest of the civilized works as well.

common in Australia. I've been warned about having conversations with other people about salaries. Not sure if it's illegal, but it happens anyway.

Re: How to Pay Programmers Less (2016)

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post #12

If I remember correctly, the advice to give raises randomly also appeared in a serious, non-ironic "How to become a CEO" book [1]. There, it was positioned as a way to make subordinates work harder and make them more loyal - people were assumed to react to fuzzy, random bonuses and raises better than to a linear relationship between results and pay. [1] https://www.amazon.com/How-Become-CEO-Rising-Organization/dp...

This is how you reward children for good behaviour too, without decreasing their intrinsic motivation for said activity, a good reference for how to motivate without using money is "Drive" by Daniel Pink.
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