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Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

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Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

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In the last couple articles I've read to reduce your own carbon footprint I've found one thing is sadly missing most of the time: butter. It's way worse than beef. One kg butter blasts 24kg CO2 into the air before it gets to you, with beef it's around 13kg.

I've replaced butter with margarine in a lot of cases since I just didn't taste a difference when having it under something hearty and tasty. Easy win.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

#32
It’s also worth pointing out that even if you don’t want to reduce the amount of meat you eat, changing the type of meat can have big effects. For example (and ignoring transport to the consumer), lamb produces about 35 kg CO₂ per kg of meat, beef 25kg CO₂ / kg, pork and farmed salmon 8kg CO₂ / kg and chicken 4kg CO₂ / kg.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

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I simply cannot believe that food is affecting environment more than factories, vehicles and rubbish.

Well, that is why it so important that we have the IPCC, and now this special report. Food causes 25-30% of human made GHG emissions. Large part for deforestation, Methan emissions of ruminants and animal feed. Without including the transportation, packaging, etc. in the calculation it is still 23%. As you can read in chapter 5 of the report.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

#34

I don't think people will stop consuming meat if you ask them nicely. You have to make decisions that will hurt the meat industry and make it infeasible. This would likely best be achieved through slowly dropping tax incentives, and transferring them over to alternatives so that people have something equally economical to today's meat.

Make much higher welfare standards for farm animals a requirement - making meat much more expensive, reducing consumption. Sounds like a win win to me.

And if you don't want to wait for the government to require this you can already start today.

Buy only locally farmed organic meat. Don't go to fast food places or restaurants that don't specifically declare that their meat is organic and local.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

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post #25

I simply cannot believe that food is affecting environment more than factories, vehicles and rubbish.

It's amazing right? Animals don't need to be moved. Animals don't make rubbish. Animals don't need things built for them in factories.

No need to worry!

I'm vegan btw.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

#37

I don't think people will stop consuming meat if you ask them nicely. You have to make decisions that will hurt the meat industry and make it infeasible. This would likely best be achieved through slowly dropping tax incentives, and transferring them over to alternatives so that people have something equally economical to today's meat.

Methane tax IMO

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

#38

I personally used to be very concerned about ressource efficiency. With a new doomsday message every day, I decided to make most out of my resources now until some eco-shmock is going to make it unavailable for me. I fly all the time and eat as good as I can. Maybe tomorrow it will be only a memory but that’s more than making a big trip other year and then nothing. Edit: BTW, this is not trolling. I represent a real…

> I decided to make most out of my resources

They’re not “your” resources: they’re shared among everyone, including future generations.

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

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How about we put a ban on UN officials’ private jets first?

Makes sense as long as the following assumptions are true:

1. UN officials are traveling by private jet

2. Private jets are worse for the environment than the meat industry

I presume you have evidence of the above that lead to your suggestion?

Re: Eat less meat: UN climate change report calls for change to human diet

#40
How about we don't change the diet but change where the food comes from?

When talking about meat and damage to the environment, the only relevant figures are the ones associated with animal feed (e.g. water consumption per kg of meat).

Pastured animals, by definition, don't eat feed coming from the monoculture industrial agriculture that is depleting the soil and consuming all those resources, and which is also used to feed humans, sadly.

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