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Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Post by dwohnitmok »

I wonder at what point similarities with past works becomes inevitable. There's only a finite amount of original music out there, especially if you're talking about the length of an average riff or motif, leave out a lot of the more extreme attempts of contemporary art music, and stick to what sounds pleasing in popular music genres. And the output of number of musical compositions seems only to be increasing. An interesting short story in this vein is http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200011/0671319744___1.htm

A bit on the melodramatic side, but explores the same general point.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Post by ptah »

thedaemon wrote: post #24
ptah wrote: post #13

16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence

You are not a musician I take it. If you play punk style music, you are playing 8-16 of the same notes in a row. 16 notes are nothing.

i am actually a musician, the rhythm is important and a sequence of 16 notes at the same rhythm and the same tonal distance is too big to be a coincidence

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Post by auto »

lostphilosopher wrote: post #17
freehunter wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

Pattern Trolls

Slightly ironically an awesome band name.

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Post by ptah »

vortico wrote: post #18
ptah wrote: post #13

16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence

It's not 16 notes but three notes. C B A. The first note is repeated for a measure, the second is repeated for a half note, and the third is played once. Yes, it's undoubtedly a coincidence. See https://i.cbc.ca/1.5235857.1564861522!/fileImage/httpImage/i...

the repetition is super important. in modern music the rhythm is more important than the variety of tones. the same rhythm and the same tonal distance is too big to be a coincidence

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Post by ptah »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #19
ptah wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in the graphic 16 notes are green (meaning the same) so saying 3 is not accurate at all

Three different notes. Repeating the same note is rhythm , but the allegations are about melody .

three different tones, but you are ignoring the most important aspect of modern music: rhythm. a modern music piece uses only a few different tones

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Post by ptah »

thedaemon wrote: post #24
ptah wrote: post #13

16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence

You are not a musician I take it. If you play punk style music, you are playing 8-16 of the same notes in a row. 16 notes are nothing.

even in punk, it would be plagiarism if you have four sequences of 8 repeated notes but with 4 different tones

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Post by seandougall »

vortico wrote: post #18
ptah wrote: post #13

16 notes in the same sequence? that's too big of a coincidence

It's not 16 notes but three notes. C B A. The first note is repeated for a measure, the second is repeated for a half note, and the third is played once. Yes, it's undoubtedly a coincidence. See https://i.cbc.ca/1.5235857.1564861522!/fileImage/httpImage/i...

Yeah, one could just as easily claim that Joyful Noise ripped that motive off from Red Hot Chili Peppers' Snow (Hey Oh).
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