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Surely, someone has to hire this guy. Forget Apple. Intel? Nokia? IBM?
The US Government?
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Root keys for Sony’s PlayStation 3 go public
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Re: Root keys for Sony’s PlayStation 3 go public
#32So what are the implications of this ? Homebrew software ? Pirated games ?
Homebrew first and foremost, and reclaiming back the ability to run Linux on the consoles (and run it on the PS3 Slim as well). It's possible to pirate games with this knowledge, but from my understanding a lot of the Blu-ray security has not been broken at this point in time so these keys are by no means all you need to get up and start ripping those discs.
I have a PS3 that hasn't been received the update to remove the "Other OS" option(and I'm damn glad I waited...). Does this also provide access to the PS3 Hypervisor? I remember reading, a long time ago, that that was one portion of the PS3 that was restricted from running Linux. On the same token, I wonder if that could mean better performance... I found that running Yellow Dog Linux on it was awfully slow.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not so sure I'd want to take a job having just made my new chain of command look like incompetent idiots, they'd probably find a way to repay the favor. They'd just make him to sign a bunch of long-term NDAs and fire him 6 months later. If this guy had much experience in the workplace he'd know that development like this usually happens when an organization has systematically driven out the detail-oriented securi…
I'm not so sure I'd want to take a job having just made my new chain of command look like incompetent idiots A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. An organization that focused on results would be all edge like the fictional Maas Neotek from Gibson's Neuromancer.
A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though.
Absolutely. But if they were the savvy type, would they have been pwned at nearly every security layer like that? If you haven't seen it, the video says it better than I can.
So probably if he were hired, it would be with mixed feelings of some of his uppers. At best, he probably "wouldn't fit in with the team" as they say. Someone like him would need to be either in charge of the whole freaking platform direction, or not there at all. (now there's an idea) Seriously, IMHO Sony's best move would be to fire the guy responsible for reneging on Linux and hire someone with a clue instead. Microsoft would have the guts do something like that.
It's ridiculous. I bought a PS3 (by coincidence) the other day. Guess what?! It doesn't play PS2 games! PS2 plays PS1 games (so I thought). Our Wii plays GameCube games. Xbox360 plays Xbox games. What is a PS3 if not a PlayStation? I didn't have my heart set on it anyway, but the kids tracked down some PS2 games they wanted. They specifically wanted the older PS2 versions because they didn't like the PS3 versions!
In fairness, Gran Turismo 5 and Little Big Planet are beautiful and fun games and they have only crashed a few times.
Re: Root keys for Sony’s PlayStation 3 go public
#34"if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3." I would take the mans word and hire him. I'd even through Apple into his list, he did after all release jailbreaks for the iPhone too.
Bunnie, the original hacker of the first Xbox, was brought on as council by Microsoft to help improve security for the Xbox 360. You can see the results if you ever get deep into the security models of the two.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not so sure I'd want to take a job having just made my new chain of command look like incompetent idiots A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. An organization that focused on results would be all edge like the fictional Maas Neotek from Gibson's Neuromancer.
A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. Absolutely. But if they were the savvy type, would they have been pwned at nearly every security layer like that? If you haven't seen it, the video says it better than I can. So probably if he were hired, it would be with mixed feelings of some of his uppers. At best, he probably "wouldn't fit in with t…
Older versions of the PS3 support PS2 games. They dropped support around the time the Slim came out.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Homebrew first and foremost, and reclaiming back the ability to run Linux on the consoles (and run it on the PS3 Slim as well). It's possible to pirate games with this knowledge, but from my understanding a lot of the Blu-ray security has not been broken at this point in time so these keys are by no means all you need to get up and start ripping those discs.
I have a PS3 that hasn't been received the update to remove the "Other OS" option(and I'm damn glad I waited...). Does this also provide access to the PS3 Hypervisor? I remember reading, a long time ago, that that was one portion of the PS3 that was restricted from running Linux. On the same token, I wonder if that could mean better performance... I found that running Yellow Dog Linux on it was awfully slow.
> On the same token, I wonder if that could mean better performance... I found that running Yellow Dog Linux on it was awfully slow.
The hypervisor is minimal in terms of overhead. The biggest impact comes from the fact that the PPC core in the PS3 doesn't do out-of-order execution. You'd be downright amazed how huge a difference this makes.
Re: Root keys for Sony’s PlayStation 3 go public
#37"if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3." I would take the mans word and hire him. I'd even through Apple into his list, he did after all release jailbreaks for the iPhone too.
Didn't this happen with their last round of consoles, and didn't they hire the people that did this last time around? I recall something about this from that case with the guy who was chipping in CA a few weeks ago.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not so sure I'd want to take a job having just made my new chain of command look like incompetent idiots A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. An organization that focused on results would be all edge like the fictional Maas Neotek from Gibson's Neuromancer.
A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. Absolutely. But if they were the savvy type, would they have been pwned at nearly every security layer like that? If you haven't seen it, the video says it better than I can. So probably if he were hired, it would be with mixed feelings of some of his uppers. At best, he probably "wouldn't fit in with t…
But if they were the savvy type, would they have been pwned at nearly every security layer like that?
True. If I were him, I'd try working at Apple. Also, "they" are not monolithic. It's quite possible that the parties they beat would not be in his chain of command. One would have to do some diligent research before taking that job. It might well be worth it, however.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a PS3 that hasn't been received the update to remove the "Other OS" option(and I'm damn glad I waited...). Does this also provide access to the PS3 Hypervisor? I remember reading, a long time ago, that that was one portion of the PS3 that was restricted from running Linux. On the same token, I wonder if that could mean better performance... I found that running Yellow Dog Linux on it was awfully slow.
> On the same token, I wonder if that could mean better performance... I found that running Yellow Dog Linux on it was awfully slow. The hypervisor is minimal in terms of overhead. The biggest impact comes from the fact that the PPC core in the PS3 doesn't do out-of-order execution. You'd be downright amazed how huge a difference this makes.
No kidding? I remember someone from GDC in 2005(the one, I believe from Maxis, who created a storm on Gamasutra after bashing the Wii two years later) that putting out-of-order execution on gaming consoles was going to cripple their capabilities... but the PS3 certainly doesn't seem to suffer from it as far as games are concerned. I don't know enough about the topic at this point so I'd have to read some more.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
A chain of command that's savvy enough to really want him despite that is one you'd actually want to be in, though. Absolutely. But if they were the savvy type, would they have been pwned at nearly every security layer like that? If you haven't seen it, the video says it better than I can. So probably if he were hired, it would be with mixed feelings of some of his uppers. At best, he probably "wouldn't fit in with t…
Older versions of the PS3 support PS2 games. They dropped support around the time the Slim came out.
This is true-the parent should also bear in mind that not every single Xbox game is supported on the 360. They gave up on trying to be backwards compatible about 2.5 years in, or so.