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Apply your reasoning to other subjects and you are essentially saying fiction is a useless device to explore the world and yourself with... which I couldn't disagree with enough.
Well, it's a good thing that I never said that.
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I'm sorry to do this, but I disagree in spirit with just about every point that you've made. > it does some form of sex education when parents/school/society does none Education? Porn is "education?" Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training. > it lets people realize what sex is about (think about amateur categories and how you can see people not that different from you having sex and realizing th…
what about things like HUMP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HUMP!_(film_festival) ) and the varieties of ethical porn initiatives?
If you could give me a link to an answer, I would appreciate it.
> However, porn is unhealthy in any amount. Uh, I disagree, like a lot. Porn does a lot of nice things: - it does some form of sex education when parents/school/society does none - it lets people realize what sex is about (think about amateur categories and how you can see people not that different from you having sex and realizing that different shapes and sizes, all work) - it lets you explore your own sexuality (c…
I'm sorry to do this, but I disagree in spirit with just about every point that you've made. > it does some form of sex education when parents/school/society does none Education? Porn is "education?" Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training. > it lets people realize what sex is about (think about amateur categories and how you can see people not that different from you having sex and realizing th…
> Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training.
Right, but the options aren't only "war movie" or "real combat training". For some folks the options are porn or a vacuum of information. You can find plenty of regular, non-porn-actor folks having regular sex online. Are you saying this can't be valuable, especially when someone knows next to nothing about sex?
To use your metaphor: as a young and untrained person, would you rather be dropped in the middle of a battlefield with no explanation, or would you rather have watched some videos of real combat first?
The very first question is "I felt that porn is an important part of my life", and the options are "never", "sometimes", "always", etc. Is it asking for how much of the time I have that feeling (meaning if I say anything but "always" or "never", I'm saying that my opinion changes with regularity), or is it asking how much of the time porn is an important part of my life (which doesn't make sense to me because either…
>When I vowed not to watch porn anymore, I could only do it for a short period of time
How are you supposed to answer if you've never vowed to never again watch porn...?
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I'm sorry to do this, but I disagree in spirit with just about every point that you've made. > it does some form of sex education when parents/school/society does none Education? Porn is "education?" Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training. > it lets people realize what sex is about (think about amateur categories and how you can see people not that different from you having sex and realizing th…
Of course porn isn't a real substitute for sexual education or exploring with another real human. But you appear to claim that it's practically useless because it doesn't provide everything. That's a false dichotomy: porn can be helpful in some ways, as the GP mentioned. > Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training. Right, but the options aren't only "war movie" or "real combat training". For some…
Of course you can find good-old-fashioned amateur porn out there. It might even be useful! But, as you said, in a vacuum: It's now your mental model.
Bob and Alice uploaded a porn video where Alice is on top, and now Chuck just knows that's how sex works.
It wouldn't be so bad if Chuck went through the next few years of life thinking that. One day, he'll meet a girl and learn that sometimes the man is on top.
But: You know what's out there on the front page of the most popular porn sites. Pornhub. Xhamster. Not exactly wholesome amateur love making.
> So far, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has agreed that there is insufficient evidence to support diagnoses for sex and porn addiction. In 2010, the APA rejected the inclusion of “sex addiction” in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). A new condition called “hypersexual disorder” was proposed for the DSM-5 but, in 2012, the APA rejected it as well for lack of evidence.
> when UCLA researchers studied the response to viewing sexually explicit images in people who self-defined as being unable to regulate their porn viewing, the results showed no similar response [to addiction].... The authors concluded that there was no evidence to say that even problem sexual regulation fit the definition of addiction as defined by brain response and that these people simply had high sex drives.
>people who develop addictions initially show high levels of response in the pleasure centers of the brain... one of the hallmarks of true addiction is that the pleasure received from the object of the addiction wanes over time as the person no longer wants the object but, rather, needs the object. In contrast, even people who report very strong “addiction” to sex continue to show activation of the pleasure centers of the brain when viewing sexually explicit images. This response is similar to the response people have to chocolate, ice cream and other highly desired pleasures.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/your-porn-addiction-isnt-real
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-and-personal/2...
You might consider backing off the unsupported blanket statements like "100% of people feel better after quitting to watch porn" and "porn is unhealthy in any amount". As it is the site smells more like zealotry than a fair test.
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Of course porn isn't a real substitute for sexual education or exploring with another real human. But you appear to claim that it's practically useless because it doesn't provide everything. That's a false dichotomy: porn can be helpful in some ways, as the GP mentioned. > Porn is to sex education as war movies are to combat training. Right, but the options aren't only "war movie" or "real combat training". For some…
Thank you for following the Principle of Charity, (maybe better than I did.) Of course you can find good-old-fashioned amateur porn out there. It might even be useful! But, as you said, in a vacuum: It's now your mental model. Bob and Alice uploaded a porn video where Alice is on top, and now Chuck just knows that's how sex works. It wouldn't be so bad if Chuck went through the next few years of life thinking that. O…
But this comment only shows one case where someone gets an only partially informed idea and takes it the wrong way (and only watches one video?). It doesn't address any of the other cases where it is helpful.
Also: many of us enjoy more than "wholesome" love making, and porn can be a way of discovering things you never would have realized you enjoyed.
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Thank you for following the Principle of Charity, (maybe better than I did.) Of course you can find good-old-fashioned amateur porn out there. It might even be useful! But, as you said, in a vacuum: It's now your mental model. Bob and Alice uploaded a porn video where Alice is on top, and now Chuck just knows that's how sex works. It wouldn't be so bad if Chuck went through the next few years of life thinking that. O…
You're right that solely having porn as your sexual guide can lead to some serious disappointment and confusion. I don't think anyone here was suggesting that, or that ALL porn can be informative. But this comment only shows one case where someone gets an only partially informed idea and takes it the wrong way (and only watches one video?). It doesn't address any of the other cases where it is helpful. Also: many of…
I am interested though to hear what marines would say about the recruits that come in having played video games or watched movies with gunplay. Is it a good thing? Does it leave them with messed up ideas or expectations?